Good feedback - I have bolded and italicized the word "optional" in the "The Competitors" section to make it stand out more.
dillon / lee / hornady progressive comparison
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Good feedback - I have bolded and italicized the word "optional" in the "The Competitors" section to make it stand out more.
On two seperqte occasions I have admitted to Hornady that the breakage was my fault and they have never charged me for parts and shipping was very fast, 4-5 days to my door.
As much as I want to be pissed off at them they make it awfully hard.
Thanks for the great article and video acrashb. I think the LNL is my goal, but the cost is too high for me right now.
I only want to reload for pistol (9mm, .40), so I know a progressive is the way to go as I intend on shooting IPSC.
I have debated on purchasing a turret press, and starting with that, then in time moving up to progressive. I could purchase a turret press before the new year, but I would be looking at next summer for a progressive set up.
Would starting with a turret press be a good idea, or should I save my money and put it into a progressive?
Also, while watching your video on youtube, I found another great video, although I am not sure I will follow his advice.
htt p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98I1i8Toj8E&feature=related
Mike_R
I only want to reload for pistol (9mm, .40), so I know a progressive is the way to go as I intend on shooting IPSC.
I have debated on purchasing a turret press, and starting with that, then in time moving up to progressive. I could purchase a turret press before the new year, but I would be looking at next summer for a progressive set up.
Would starting with a turret press be a good idea, or should I save my money and put it into a progressive?
Also, while watching your video on youtube, I found another great video, although I am not sure I will follow his advice.
htt p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98I1i8Toj8E&feature=related
Mike_R
Hi - thanks for the kind words.
Lots of guys use turrets to good effect and are happy with them. If you shop smart - finding something used in good shape - your resale will be close to what you paid. The dies you can re-use on a progressive.
Having said that, I've never used one, so I can't relay direct experience.
Re the video - hilarious. It's made the rounds before, but I laugh every time I watch it.
Now that sounds like a good idea. Finding a used turret press would be great! I imagine many of the accessories would be transferable, like the dies you mentioned, case cleaner, ect.
So anyone know how many rounds per hour a turret press does on average? A lot less than 500 no doubt.
I figured the video had gotten around, but just in case, because I LMAO.
Thanks,
Mike_R
True, but the shell can stay in the holder as the turret rotates, which saves a fair bit of time.
Lock stock will send a press to Canada. I have the LNL AP coming right now. Unfortunately they were out of case feeders and 9mm shell plates. But due to the USPS shipping rules it would have had to be another box and shipping fee anyway. They will be shipped when it comes in. At least I'll be able to load for 45 at first. I will have to figure out how much allowance to leave for the case feeder.
I thought the indexing on a turret was manual? Wouldn't it be quicker to do one operation on a whole bunch of cases at the same time and then move to the next step?
As far as leaving dies set up you'd be better off to get a Forster press. By the time you buy a turret for several calibers you have paid the difference. There just isn't a better press as far as I am aware. You don't even have to buy different shell holders and die changes only take seconds with no room for error in adjustment. This is also the press to have for accurate rifle rounds. The US marine competitive team uses this press.
I thought the indexing on a turret was manual? Wouldn't it be quicker to do one operation on a whole bunch of cases at the same time and then move to the next step?
As far as leaving dies set up you'd be better off to get a Forster press. By the time you buy a turret for several calibers you have paid the difference. There just isn't a better press as far as I am aware. You don't even have to buy different shell holders and die changes only take seconds with no room for error in adjustment. This is also the press to have for accurate rifle rounds. The US marine competitive team uses this press.
Yes it is. You can turn it while moving the ram up or down, saving time.
No, because you have to handle the case multiple times. Batch-and-queue is usually slower than continuous process for that reason.
Short story: get a couple of good reloading manuals (I like Sierra and Lyman). And have a look here., or here, or maybe here. . They all have on-press priming.
What do I buy now?
Ok, because of this great thread and others my sons and I read here, we've decided to go partners on the Hornady LNL AP (stays at my house). We'll be loading .270 win and .338 to start.
The info at various online sites is either in jargon (we're nubes to reloading) or lacking in sufficient info to know exactly what we'll be getting. Before reading this thread I was leaning to the RCBS kit because it included everything you needed, excepting dies, but it told you you needed dies.
If we purchase the Hornady LNL AP, exactly what additional equipment will we need? and what would be the best value in brands for the additional stuff, (dies etc.)
Thanks for the help. If you know the best online souces for best value we're U.S. based.
Koffee_iv
Ok, because of this great thread and others my sons and I read here, we've decided to go partners on the Hornady LNL AP (stays at my house). We'll be loading .270 win and .338 to start.
The info at various online sites is either in jargon (we're nubes to reloading) or lacking in sufficient info to know exactly what we'll be getting. Before reading this thread I was leaning to the RCBS kit because it included everything you needed, excepting dies, but it told you you needed dies.
If we purchase the Hornady LNL AP, exactly what additional equipment will we need? and what would be the best value in brands for the additional stuff, (dies etc.)
Thanks for the help. If you know the best online souces for best value we're U.S. based.
Koffee_iv
1) if you are only loading rifle calibers in low volume, a progressive may not be the thing for you - although it is doable, and if you plan to move to higher volume later (pistol, 223, etc) then go for it.
2) your best best is to a) get two reloading manuals (Lyman and Sierra are a good combination) to have a better handle on what you are doing and b) call Hornady and ask - their tech support line has been quite helpful for me and others.
As for brands, any of the majors are good enough for general needs. Might as well go with Hornady to stick on a Hornady press (their rifle dies have some innovative features), but RCBS or Lee would be fine and will outlast you under normal conditions.
3) Lock, Stock and Barrel seems to have good pricing. There are lots of other online places to buy.
True, if you google 'dillon hornady lee' the article is the first result - if my name was in it, I would be famous - just imagine the next contract interview!
You want a bullet feeder if you do volume - in answer to your email question, yes the KISS does 223. I worked with KISS to develop the LNL AP version of the expander, and tested their feeder on the LNL AP as well. Although I think you are using a Dillon - which works just as well.
