dillon / lee / hornady progressive comparison

stripperclip said:
i know about henry's site, however i have reservations on dealing cash over the internet to a stranger. if he accepted credit cards, i would have bought from his site already...
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You are more than welcome to check out my Trader Ratings here on CGN. I'm Henry Nierychlo on here. Also, you can contact some of the guys that left Trader Ratings there.
I believe that customer service is the most important thing about being in business.
I have an Ammo Plant in stock and can have it delivered to you in a couple of days.
Check out this thread about me too.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...01-Budget-Shooter-Supply-!!!&highlight=budget
also
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...e-with-Budget-Shooter-Supply&highlight=budget

Regards, Henry
 
stripperclip said:
i know about henry's site, however i have reservations on dealing cash over the internet to a stranger. if he accepted credit cards, i would have bought from his site already...
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I have dealt with Henry recently as a new customer. His service is excellent and he seems like a pretty good guy. Anyone that's gonna screw you sure isn't going to allow you to come over to there residence to pick up so I wouldn't worry about it.
 
Hello there Gents, so rather than reading thru all 11 plus pages, I will ask. I am not a big reloader, yet, but I am looking to purchase a set of Dies for my 300 win mag. I would like to reuse my brass quite a few times if possible. Now I have found a set of Lee dies, in a set. It has a Collet Neck sizing die, a full length resizing die and a Dead length bullet seating die. Is this a worth while set of dies???, at 45.00. I don't have a press yet, but I am looking into getting the RCBS rock chucker supreme.
 
Budzo100 said:
Hello there Gents, so rather than reading thru all 11 plus pages, I will ask. I am not a big reloader, yet, but I am looking to purchase a set of Dies for my 300 win mag. I would like to reuse my brass quite a few times if possible. Now I have found a set of Lee dies, in a set. It has a Collet Neck sizing die, a full length resizing die and a Dead length bullet seating die. Is this a worth while set of dies???, at 45.00. I don't have a press yet, but I am looking into getting the RCBS rock chucker supreme.
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300 WM, being a belted mag, carries some interesting prospects/theories when it comes to reloading. I'm a duffer at the 300WM myself so haven't got much more to go on than what I've read. It is interesting to note though, that a New 300 WM cartridge head spaces on the belt whereas 2F etc. head space on the shoulder, like a normal cartridge. Anyhow, you may want to get into some of the 300 WM reloading Lore a bit before you decide what dies to buy. IMHO, its a lot more basic than what some folks suggest but that probably depends, to a degree, upon your rifle's chambering. Have fun.
 
Ok, Thanks HKMark, I shall do some reading. Well that goes without saying, but ya I will read up on them. The fellow that is going to get me started had not mentioned anything to me about the difference between belted and not. So Ya I'll be bending his ear as well. I had asked Andy, my friend, if he had a pocket full of money. Which dies would he purchase. I had just come across the ones mentioned, on ebay, and thought to ask on here if they were a good deal and a good set. But if they don't work, well a good deal they might be for someone else. Anyway, thanks Mark, ttyl.
 
I'd be surprised if the Lee dies didn't work. Its more a matter of preferences based upon the kind of shooter you are and the results you're after from your reloads. To paraphrase, if you're a moose hunter, the Lee's will probably suit you fine. If you're into target and teeny weeny groups, you're probably not going to get away that cheap.

Another point worth mentioning about dies. You'll probably run across this in your internet research. There is a guy who has invented, and is selling, a fancy collet die for squeezing 300 WM brass that has bulged at the base above the belt. Some very experienced CGNers, and others, are of the opinion that this expensive die is simply not needed. In my limited experience, I can't see a use for it either but again, maybe the case could be different depending on your particular rifle's chamber. I dunno. Anyhow, I wouldn't be in a big rush to go ahead and order one of these things. Just my $0.02.
 
Well, I guess, I'm a moose hunter that wants to leg out my 300 as far as I can get it. Or at least as far as "I" can shoot, My rig is a Tikka Heavy Barrel Varmit. So it's not a 5000 dollar rig or anything like that. So value your advice for sure. Time and access to an area that allows me to leg it out to 5,6,7,8 or even 900 metres is always a bit of a travel concern. I have heard that there is a range in the Coronation area that has a lane that is up to 1000 yards long. But from where I am, that is a days outing. So with all that babble, and getting enough rounds loaded up to try different loads and bullets, I think it will be a slow but interesting process to dial in my shootin iron and hopefully be able to put it where I want it in the end. I can see by all the reading that I have done in the past few weeks that there are some really serious reloaders and target shooters out there that spend a awful lot of time and money to dialing there rig. Anyway, thanks for the info. I'll let you know how it all comes out.
 
Budzo100 said:
Well, I guess, I'm a moose hunter that wants to leg out my 300 as far as I can get it. Or at least as far as "I" can shoot, My rig is a Tikka Heavy Barrel Varmit. So it's not a 5000 dollar rig or anything like that. So value your advice for sure. Time and access to an area that allows me to leg it out to 5,6,7,8 or even 900 metres is always a bit of a travel concern. I have heard that there is a range in the Coronation area that has a lane that is up to 1000 yards long. But from where I am, that is a days outing. So with all that babble, and getting enough rounds loaded up to try different loads and bullets, I think it will be a slow but interesting process to dial in my shootin iron and hopefully be able to put it where I want it in the end. I can see by all the reading that I have done in the past few weeks that there are some really serious reloaders and target shooters out there that spend a awful lot of time and money to dialing there rig. Anyway, thanks for the info. I'll let you know how it all comes out.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to go for distance with that Tikka HB !! I don't own one but they have the right pedigree and a great reputation. Have Fun ;).
 
Great article. Very informative. Problem is with the Americans preparing for the Obama Apocalypse you can't find a progressive loader around easily. I think I will consider the Hornady eventually like the writer did.
 
My only complaint(minor) about the Hornady LNL Progressive is that the LNL quick die change bushing setup is different for it and the LNL single stage press.
Rifle dies setup on the single stage cannot be used without re-adjusting the dies into the bushing due to the different thickness of the two presses.
Would have made loading faster for priming the cases and then seating the bullets after weighted charges funneled into the cases.
Would have perhaps given a bit more versatility with the same set of dies.
 
diopter said:
Rifle dies setup on the single stage cannot be used without re-adjusting the dies into the bushing due to the different thickness of the two presses.
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Even if they were intentionally the same, you would need to re-adjust between presses at least for the sizing die (seating die will have similar tolerance requirements if doing precision loading). A few thousandths of an inch make a difference, and no manufacturer could hold that tolerance across different presses, let alone different models. They guy in the video hand-calibrated, which is great, but beyond most of us.
 
acrashb said:
Even if they were intentionally the same, you would need to re-adjust between presses at least for the sizing die (seating die will have similar tolerance requirements if doing precision loading). A few thousandths of an inch make a difference, and no manufacturer could hold that tolerance across different presses, let alone different models. They guy in the video hand-calibrated, which is great, but beyond most of us.
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Agree. Laughed at the way he just happens to have a machine shop handy next to his work bench. The rest of us have to pay $ for a machinist. You could arguably use standard washer shims from the machine shop (automotive machine shops have them) and get close.
 
Might be an idea for someone with a lathe and mill in their garage to make a range of spacers and a machined flat bushing for the aftermarket conversion.
Sort of like what inlinefabrication.com does for press handles and stands.

Difference in video presses was .176".
If done in .002" steps, say .166", .168", .170", .172", .174", .178", .180", .182", .184", .186"
Ten sizes to cover .020" range.

For 7/8-14 thread:
turn = vertical change in height.
1 = 0.071428571"
1/2 = 0.035714286"
1/4 = 0.017857143"
1/8 = 0.008928571"
1/16 = 0.004464286"

Having the shims would be more accurate than re-adjusting the dies everytime.
 
This is a fantastic article, I used it in my decision making process on purchasing my new press.
I had used a PRO1000 for many years and needed a new press with 5 stations for my new caliber (9x40).
A friend is using a Lee Loadmaster for the same caliber and it has pumped out tons of rounds over many years, other friends have and are happy with Dillon 650's and a 1050.
Nobody locally had a LNL that I was aware of but after watching several you tube videos and reading this article several times I decided to try one.
What I found, up to this point;
-Set up is fairly easy.
-The powder measure is awesome.
-Extremely smooth, I load 16 grains of H110 (almost a full case) and powder spillage is nil.
-If a press could every be considered left handed this is the one.
-The case feeder sucks in 40 S&W until simple mods are made (drill bits & a Lee case feeder tube).
-Filling the primer tube sucks compared to a Lee.
-If you run out of primers the press still works and will load cases with powder to be spilled out everywhere (yes, I use the indicator rod).
-Hornady inventory availability is not the greatest, I've had mine for 6 months and am still waiting for the case feeder plate (this totally sucks), but
-I would buy one again, it's excellent. Not finicky, no Lee rhythm required, pumps out the rounds very quickly, low effort and makes good ammo.
I can see myself getting one of those primer tube fillers though..
Thanks for the write up, hope you get commission, lol :)
 
I personally went with a Dillion RL550b when I went up from my orginal lee single stage press. Lee I've had little issues here and there with the press. My lee broke I had to pay for the new part even with tho the pres was less then a year old. My Dillion broke and no questions asked they sent me the new part. I'm very impressed with there service.
 
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