Thanks for the info,im thinking about picking up the brass tornado as well and it seems like a one stop shop,hopefully shipping isnt too pricey ive never had a press shipped before but looking back on the 650 it was a pretty large box.
Just so no misunderstanding, I bought presses locally on Kijiji and just got the dies and stuff from Murray. Presses are beefy and fairly large as you know so they'll cost more to ship than my little package.
Greyhound may be a good alternative?