Dillon xl650 and RCBS 3 die set set up

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I am new to reloading and just purchased a xl650 and RCBS 3 die set.
I could use some help with set up.
I am loading 45 ACP

station 1-size & decap
station 2-powder charge/bell mouth case
station 3-powder check (not used yet)
station 4-seater die

my question is the seater die is also the crimp die with the rcbs dies?
what about the third die? the expander die?

Any help for a newbie would be greatly apreciated
 
Ever try to pat your head and rub your belly?

That's what using the seating die to crimp is like. You are moving the case mouth into a moving bullet. Just a problem best avoided.

Dillon use a seperate crimp die in the last station.
They use the powder funnel on the powder die to perform the belling.
 
+1 What he said ^^^^

Isn't the RCBS a 3 die set? You should have the crimp die included. Go to YouTube for vids on how to set up the dies if u have a minute
 
Canuck223 said:
Ever try to pat your head and rub your belly?

That's what using the seating die to crimp is like. You are moving the case mouth into a moving bullet. Just a problem best avoided.

Dillon use a seperate crimp die in the last station.
They use the powder funnel on the powder die to perform the belling.
Click to expand...

OK so do I need to buy another die?
And what about the expander die?
 
Melnibonean said:
+1 What he said ^^^^

Isn't the RCBS a 3 die set? You should have the crimp die included. Go to YouTube for vids on how to set up the dies if u have a minute
Click to expand...

yes it is a 3 die set
1-decap and size
2-expander
3-seat/crimp

Havent found anything on u tube yet...still looking
 
1ducky said:
OK so do I need to buy another die?
And what about the expander die?
Click to expand...

Just bite the bullet and give Custom Reloading a call for a set of Dillon .45 dies.

The RCBS sizing die will not have a wide enough radius for a progressive, so you'll probably munch some case mouths.

The expander die is useless to you.
 
Canuck223 said:
Just bite the bullet and give Custom Reloading a call for a set of Dillon .45 dies.

The RCBS sizing die will not have a wide enough radius for a progressive, so you'll probably munch some case mouths.

The expander die is useless to you.
Click to expand...

Thanks...thats what I thought.
I was going to buy dillon dies with the press but was talked out of it
 
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