Dirty New Gun
- Thread starter Cerdan
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I bought the same pistol, which probably came from the same distributor, mine was spotless and still had the factory oil on it. IMHO looks like yours was fired, I'd be PO'd big time. Matter of principle.
I don't remember my S&W 686 being particularly dirty when I bought it. It certainly didn't look anything like it does after a range session. Seing how yours is a high-end PC model, I would be surprised if S&W didn't clean it after it was test-fired at the factory.
If you're the first owner since the factory, it's new ..... So the factory took some test shots to make sure it was in good working order, or even the store that sold it to you took a few test shots out of one or two samples as an extra QC step but somebody got lazy and didn't clean it afterwards, I personally wouldn't be offended.
Virtually all guns are fired at the factory. Some are cleaned up nicely, some not so much.
Personal, I wouldn't care if a gun store DID fire it. It's not going to hurt it.
Last revolver I bought, I actually told the employee of the store to shoot it a few times if he wanted while the transfer was going through.
Personal, I wouldn't care if a gun store DID fire it. It's not going to hurt it.
Last revolver I bought, I actually told the employee of the store to shoot it a few times if he wanted while the transfer was going through.
Lee Enfield
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Republic of Alberta
Last I heard S&W was firing 3 proof (higher than normal pressure) rounds out of every revolver they make.
Originally they fired 6 proof rounds, but I think this was downgraded for budget reasons.
Originally they fired 6 proof rounds, but I think this was downgraded for budget reasons.
And here I was, hoping for a clear-cut answer! Seems some people mind, others don't.
Again, I wouldn't object to a new gun being fired in principle, but I would expect whoever fired it (factory or gunshop) to give it a scrub, simple courtesy. The other two new S&Ws I bought were probably fired a few times, but at least they were clean, allowing me to experience the full "new gun feel".
In this case, however, it really seems like it was fired after I inspected it and purchased it, without my permission. And whoever did so didn't bother to clean it. Definitely not a sign of repect. I'll call over the week-end, see what comes of it.
Again, I wouldn't object to a new gun being fired in principle, but I would expect whoever fired it (factory or gunshop) to give it a scrub, simple courtesy. The other two new S&Ws I bought were probably fired a few times, but at least they were clean, allowing me to experience the full "new gun feel".
In this case, however, it really seems like it was fired after I inspected it and purchased it, without my permission. And whoever did so didn't bother to clean it. Definitely not a sign of repect. I'll call over the week-end, see what comes of it.
My 686 was clean as a whistle from factory.
I've had this problem with store/range staff in the past too. I've subsequently learned to trigger lock them and might even start locking the case while waiting for transfers. Love my store/range, especially the employees that have been there for a long time, but there's always one new a$$hat out of every ten new employees these days. I wanted to smack the crap out of someone last time, but how do you prove it. We just learn to adapt to a$$hat's.
I've had this problem with store/range staff in the past too. I've subsequently learned to trigger lock them and might even start locking the case while waiting for transfers. Love my store/range, especially the employees that have been there for a long time, but there's always one new a$$hat out of every ten new employees these days. I wanted to smack the crap out of someone last time, but how do you prove it. We just learn to adapt to a$$hat's.
hatman1793
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
New means unfired
Glockdog has a point. Trigger lock the gun and you should have no problems. Except that you know you cannot trust the seller.
New means new, unfired, in the original factory container. No rounds through it after if leaves the factory.
A dirty gun that has been fired is not new. Some people call it "as new" but its not. Its used and cannot command a new price.
Report your complaint and ask for a discount.
Glockdog has a point. Trigger lock the gun and you should have no problems. Except that you know you cannot trust the seller.
New means new, unfired, in the original factory container. No rounds through it after if leaves the factory.
A dirty gun that has been fired is not new. Some people call it "as new" but its not. Its used and cannot command a new price.
Report your complaint and ask for a discount.
interestingly enough i just bought a "new" 629 with a 5 inch barrel and i ran into the same issue. i was wondering if it was from testing at the factory or if it was "handled" at the gun store. i have bought dozens of new pistols and revolvers over the years (one of them being the same 5 inch 629 why oh why did i sell that?) none of which showed ant sign of being fired.
OneBarfly
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
You bought a new gun, not a demo right? If in fact the store did "test fire" after they sold it, then they are at least guilty of poor judgement. If you are truley offended, then return it on principle.
reflexzero
Regular
- Location
- Langdon, AB
My new M&P 9mm was filthy when I took it out of the box, but clean or dirty, I still clean and lube any new firearm brought home anyhow. If it's a dirty new firearm, I know someone was actually making sure the thing worked before making it available for sale.
lock gun
I just bought a S&W PD test fired it at range and told clerk that i wanted to lock it up and she said that they would take care of that. I said no it is my gun i payed for it and i want to put a lock on it now before it goes in their safe . Reluctantly she complied. Mine mine mine.
I just bought a S&W PD test fired it at range and told clerk that i wanted to lock it up and she said that they would take care of that. I said no it is my gun i payed for it and i want to put a lock on it now before it goes in their safe . Reluctantly she complied. Mine mine mine.
reflexzero
Regular
- Location
- Langdon, AB
I just bought a S&W PD test fired it at range and told clerk that i wanted to lock it up and she said that they would take care of that. I said no it is my gun i payed for it and i want to put a lock on it now before it goes in their safe . Reluctantly she complied. Mine mine mine.
That's awesome. Something to keep in mind for all of us with a plethora of gun locks sitting around.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
There are a number of possibilities not the least of which could be that the gun you thought you bought was inadvertently switched prior to mailing with this one. If the gun is blued, is the bluing gone from the face of the cylinder? Is there noticeable flame cutting through the bluing or even the metal of the top strap above the cylinder gap? If the gun is obviously used, chances are you ended up withy the wrong one, and by now some lucky bugger is walking around with a brand new revolver for the price of used.
