Discharging lee-enfields - got grenade?

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I recently picked up this nice wire wrapped No.1MkIII* for my collection. I bought a discharger cup (WW1 NPFL manufacture, National Projectile Factory, Lancaster - I believe) here on CGN a few weeks ago to go with my mills bomb, so of course, I needed a proper discharger rifle. (And good lord have the cups and mills dewats gone to crazy high prices in Canada the last couple years!!)

This one (like so many in Canada) is RFI manufactured, a 1948 made gun, just after British rule and still during the Dominon of India period where the Kingwas still the monarch (until 1950). It's made to the general British Ordnance MkIII* pattern, before Ishapore started cheapening the guns with machining shortcuts circa 1950. It still has the GRI cypher. One popular Canadian dealer has (a very over-priced) wire wrapped MkIII* done at Lithgow, but by far we see these Ishy guns from the old 1990's Springfield Sporters stash, sold here in the early 2000's.

I've owned a few of these over the years I sold off for one reason or another, but now that they are harder to find, I plan to keep this one. The cups are getting even more challenging to locate too, now that the US dealers will no longer ship discharger cups north.

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I realize these are kind of a niche item for SMLE collectors, and though these can be shot no problem (most have really great bores and weren't shot much), if you are buying a gun to shoot, most people opt for a standard infantry rifle. They are lighter, more plentiful, can be disassembled more completely for maintenance, etc.

I remember when these came in, they were cheaper than unwrapped SMLEs and some guys bought them to unwrap, refinish the wood, and get a cheaper SMLE. I would not recommend that now! These wrapped rifles definitely sell for more than an infantry SMLE these days in comparable condition. Rarity matters.

Anyone else got some grenade discharging enfields to show and tell?

I saw another in the EE this week (for a lot less than I paid for this one!), the first I had seen in a while for sale on CGN.
 
Years ago, i was fortunate to find a pair of original inert WWII Dated No68 AT MkVI Anti-Tank Grenade. The No68 was an early form of shaped charge grenade, or High Explosive, Anti Tank (HEAT) device. The design of the warhead allowed it penetrate 52mm (2 inches).
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There was a company in Germany that recently produced a 3D printed, sectionalized, copy that would be an ideal addition to a discharger cup.
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Regards,
Michael
 
I used to have a couple no.68’s maybe 7 or 8 years ago. I listed them here over and over and in the end, I maybe got 75 a piece for them. Nobody was interested.

I think they sell for a little more now and I should have kept one.

They don’t seem to have been used a lot. Compared to a bazooka or piat, they weren’t very good weapons.
 
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I have a book on how target grade SMLE'S were used between the wars etc. One of the mods was to fashion an auxilliary barrel band from plain sheet steel (one piece) resembling the forward wire wrap on the original poster's SMLE. These aux barrel bands were one piece and had one flange of machine screws and nuts securing the band to the forend and handguard. The screw flange was on the bottom iirc. I might have to take another look. You don't hear a lot about these nuances today.
 
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Some No. 68 grenades were a highly sought after item as there was some real sleepers in the lot.
Several of the more rare 68 items in the Major N. Bonney collection came out of Canada.
Canada had a few makers of the 68 as well as Canada also tested some 68's from the US that were made in very small quantities.
 
If I found another 68 for cheap, I’d buy it just to display with my mills and cup. Will have to keep my eye open. Last 2 I had were mkiii versions with cast integral base plate.
 
The rarest of the launching rifles is the cord wrapped SMLE.
I only know of three.
I think they cord wrapped both various mki versions and some early mkiii rifles.

I’m unsure if any mki (non-IP) smile’s got copper wire wrapped or if they were all cord.

Some were also sheet metal wrapped in ww1, as I understand things, but I’ve never seen one.
 
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