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Went scouting on my land today .... and found more tracks as usual .... and when I followed some of those tracks ..... I found this:


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Back home I had a look at the trail cam pictures .... and here is what the camera caught this morning:

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So, now the question .... what is this?
 
Looking at the first photo, I would suggest someone did a "poachers butcher job" and left the rest of the skeleton for that yote...hind quarter legs gone and appears to be circle cut on the hide on the front legs done with a knife.
 
Looking at the first photo, I would suggest someone did a "poachers butcher job" and left the rest of the skeleton for that yote...hind quarter legs gone and appears to be circle cut on the hide on the front legs done with a knife.

I would agree

Why would a picture of a coyote be mysterious?? I don't understand the question.

He doesn't know the difference between a wolf and a coyote (is the question)
 
Looking at the first photo, I would suggest someone did a "poachers butcher job" and left the rest of the skeleton for that yote...hind quarter legs gone and appears to be circle cut on the hide on the front legs done with a knife.

I would agree



He doesn't know the difference between a wolf and a coyote (is the question)

Well, I know that there are no wolfs on my land or in the area .... so it must be a coyote.
But yes, some people think it is a wolf .... and I wanted confirmation from you folks that this is a coyote.

With respect to poaching ...... hmmmmm .... all access points to my land have trail cameras ... and none of those cameras has caught a human in many months. It would have to be a very intelligent poacher who travels in the swamp and who knows the location of all my cameras and in order to avoid them ...

I found the carcass ca. 100 meters from the spot where the coyotes seem to have killed the deer and feasted on it .... fur, blood and small pieces of meat all over .... snow compacted in that area ... And it was not just one coyote .... there were packed trails full of tracks leading to that kill site.

And it seems the remains in the picture were dragged the 100 meters away afterwards ...
 
Looking at the first photo, I would suggest someone did a "poachers butcher job" and left the rest of the skeleton for that yote...hind quarter legs gone and appears to be circle cut on the hide on the front legs done with a knife.

Those are the hind leg bones in the pic. The fronts are gone.


Much more likely that coyotes killed deer and ate it than it being butchered on the spot by humans.
4 or 5 coyotes will eat an entire deer in a couple of nights quite easily.
 
I was just agreeing to the knife cut/poacher statement. Didn't look at the legs, just the cut

Here is a deer I found in hunting season 2013
Dead as a door nail, stiff as a board, probably dead for 2-3 day before I saw it
Later in the week the skeleton about 50 m away - no broken bones...especially back bone.

Not saying it can't happen though.

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Looking at the first photo, I would suggest someone did a "poachers butcher job" and left the rest of the skeleton for that yote...hind quarter legs gone and appears to be circle cut on the hide on the front legs done with a knife.

X2. the yote is just tidying up.

Grizz
 
I was just agreeing to the knife cut/poacher statement. Didn't look at the legs, just the cut

Here is a deer I found in hunting season 2013
Dead as a door nail, stiff as a board, probably dead for 2-3 day before I saw it
Later in the week the skeleton about 50 m away - no broken bones...especially back bone.

Not saying it can't happen though.

rkUY6pE.jpg

Z0e5Z2q.jpg


So what is it you think your pictures show? What are you inferring from the lack of a broken spine? Not saying that what can’t happen?
 
Well, I did have a second look at the photo and yes they are the back legs left there but I'm sticking with the "Knife cut hide on those legs. Chewed hide would be frayed & uneven I'm betting.
 
That is unquestionably coyote chewed off hide.

You could bet, but you’d lose. Coyotes take hide off down to where the meat stops on a deer, and deer shins don’t have a lot of steaks on them.

Typical of what deer legs look like after having been eaten by coyotes.
 
Looking at the first photo, I would suggest someone did a "poachers butcher job" and left the rest of the skeleton for that yote...hind quarter legs gone and appears to be circle cut on the hide on the front legs done with a knife.

i tend to agree with you fingers, i've seen hundreds of remains from coyotes kills and/or road kill clean up, and a coyote rarely if ever leaves that much behind. They rip everything apart and the back bone is never intact. Coyotes will definitely eat on a carcass were it lies, but once it can be tore apart, they usually drag that piece somewhere else. the picture does look a little staged.
 
if the backbone is still in one piece, it's probably not been chewed on by a coyote. An example of an animal that leaves the backbone in one piece is a cougar. i'm not saying it is or isn't, just my experience in skeleton remains is a coyote leave quite a mess. we have cat kills on our land a fair bit, and they tend to be more of a tidy carnivore.
 
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