Look at the tribes in Guyana, some tribes market hunted arowana to sell as salt fish. In some parts of Guyana they nearly disappeared. It came to be that people would pay thousands of dollars to try and fish up one of these river monsters. Now they are protected by the local tribes because what used to be $70 US worth of salted fish meat is now worth thousands to an angler looking to catch one of these beasts. They are not killed, instead it is catch and release fishing.
Disdain for trophy hunting misguided
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Look at the tribes in Guyana, some tribes market hunted arowana to sell as salt fish. In some parts of Guyana they nearly disappeared. It came to be that people would pay thousands of dollars to try and fish up one of these river monsters. Now they are protected by the local tribes because what used to be $70 US worth of salted fish meat is now worth thousands to an angler looking to catch one of these beasts. They are not killed, instead it is catch and release fishing.
sorry but we are a few using the grizzly meat here ...
I am still in the shoot anything legal phase of hunting but I'm sure I once thought I would never be a trophy fisherman but I sure spend a lot of time at trophy pike lakes last winter. Once the amusement of simply filling your limit passes it seems you appreciate the "trophy" aspect more. Looking forward to being good enough at hunting to be a trophy hunter lol
powdermaker
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I find it ironic that, as hunters, if we can't agree on the benefits of trophy hunting, how will we convince non-hunters?
The country of Namibia has it figured out. They set aside large areas called, Nature conservancies. The local people get paid a portion of revenue generated from both photo safaris and trophy hunting. The more scenic areas are better suited for photo safaris. However, much of Africa is not scenic, but good wildlife habitat and better suited for hunting. Wildlife has flourished because it has value to local people! Thirty years ago, it was considered an asset, when advertising land for sale that there be NO wildlife present. That has changed.
My wife worked in Churchill, tagging Polar bears. The polar bears congregate there because the land forms a point out on the Ocean and the bears wait for the sea to freeze. Every year, "problem bears" are destroyed in Churchill but most people want the bears there, because of the revenue they generate. There are 8 distinct populations of polar bears in the arctic. Perhaps the Churchill population should be photo safari only?
In my opinion the US ban on polar bear imports has done more to hurt the population than benefit it. Inuit can still hunt polar bear but they don't get near the revenue from selling the hide at a fur auction that they could have gotten selling a $60,000 hunt to a "evil" trophy hunter. There end of rant!
The country of Namibia has it figured out. They set aside large areas called, Nature conservancies. The local people get paid a portion of revenue generated from both photo safaris and trophy hunting. The more scenic areas are better suited for photo safaris. However, much of Africa is not scenic, but good wildlife habitat and better suited for hunting. Wildlife has flourished because it has value to local people! Thirty years ago, it was considered an asset, when advertising land for sale that there be NO wildlife present. That has changed.
My wife worked in Churchill, tagging Polar bears. The polar bears congregate there because the land forms a point out on the Ocean and the bears wait for the sea to freeze. Every year, "problem bears" are destroyed in Churchill but most people want the bears there, because of the revenue they generate. There are 8 distinct populations of polar bears in the arctic. Perhaps the Churchill population should be photo safari only?
In my opinion the US ban on polar bear imports has done more to hurt the population than benefit it. Inuit can still hunt polar bear but they don't get near the revenue from selling the hide at a fur auction that they could have gotten selling a $60,000 hunt to a "evil" trophy hunter. There end of rant!
I think the term "trophy hunter" needs to disappear. It's too often used as a slur against hunters, and needs to become as socially unacceptable as racial and ###ual slurs. "Selective hunting" is a more accurate and appropriate term.
I have evolved into a selective hunter. I get more satisfaction from letting the young ones grow up, and leaving the does to go off and breed than I do from hammering the first brown thing to walk under my sights. The meat is welcome, but I don't need it to survive. I didn't pull the trigger on anything this year, and I'm ok with that. Being selective for age and ### is simply a way of prolonging and enhancing the experience of the hunt. The rack that goes on the wall is a symbol of the experience, and a reminder of the events.
I have evolved into a selective hunter. I get more satisfaction from letting the young ones grow up, and leaving the does to go off and breed than I do from hammering the first brown thing to walk under my sights. The meat is welcome, but I don't need it to survive. I didn't pull the trigger on anything this year, and I'm ok with that. Being selective for age and ### is simply a way of prolonging and enhancing the experience of the hunt. The rack that goes on the wall is a symbol of the experience, and a reminder of the events.
Personally I hunt for the horns, meat and the experience. I like big racks, eat all of the meat we harvest and if I don't get to pull the
trigger, just being out in the woods is great. I've taken animals with small racks after turning down bigger animals and have hunted
exclusively for bigger animals. I don't believe any of the meat hunters would turn down an animal because of a trophy rack. Reading
the above comments we seem to like beating each other up. We all hunt for our personal enjoyment, why dump on someone else
because they have different goals than ourselves, as long as it is all done legally and ethically, get out and enjoy the outdoors. Life is
too short as it is.
trigger, just being out in the woods is great. I've taken animals with small racks after turning down bigger animals and have hunted
exclusively for bigger animals. I don't believe any of the meat hunters would turn down an animal because of a trophy rack. Reading
the above comments we seem to like beating each other up. We all hunt for our personal enjoyment, why dump on someone else
because they have different goals than ourselves, as long as it is all done legally and ethically, get out and enjoy the outdoors. Life is
too short as it is.
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You can call a gas jockey a "petroleum transfer engineer" but it's still the same. Maybe people just need to go back to saying things as they are instead of pussyfooting around about everything.
I have no issue with the term trophy hunter and I don't think it should be looked down upon by hunters to appease the Nancies and anti hunters.People need to grow some balls again.
So you want medals for grocery shopping now? I think those are on every 2nd Tuesday and Thursday
cdn1canhunt
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In a nutshell, you hit the nail on the head.
cdn1canhunt
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Let's put it this way, in the modern world we are all trophy hunters .. there are way cheaper and easier ways to get your meat than to hunt it, gut it, drag it, skin it and butcher it. Wild game meat, price by the pound is the most expensive meat on this planet. By the time you buy your tag, rifle, bullets, knife, boots and book a week off work to hunt it.
If you want a nice, easy to get steak then work a 1/2 extra day of overtime and pick one up on the way home.
In the end the kill is just one part of the trophy. The trophy is the experience and the memories you created during the hunt. The horns on ones wall are a way to honour the animal that allowed you the have the experience. Every time I look at the deer racks on my wall they remind me of the friends I was with, the track job to find and the drag to my truck more so than the size of the buck.
So when someone asks you if your trophy hunter..... "hell yes I am and, hell yes you are" ... cause every critter from moose to mice is a trophy if its hunted.
If you want a nice, easy to get steak then work a 1/2 extra day of overtime and pick one up on the way home.
In the end the kill is just one part of the trophy. The trophy is the experience and the memories you created during the hunt. The horns on ones wall are a way to honour the animal that allowed you the have the experience. Every time I look at the deer racks on my wall they remind me of the friends I was with, the track job to find and the drag to my truck more so than the size of the buck.
So when someone asks you if your trophy hunter..... "hell yes I am and, hell yes you are" ... cause every critter from moose to mice is a trophy if its hunted.
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Not if you don't need to venture far from home to acquire it. I figure the Bull Moose I downed this past season is equivalent to about 4 grand worth of store bought beef and the cost to acquire it was only a few percent of that value. Plus it's organic. A windfall really. As well as a nice rack to display.
cdn1canhunt
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Not if you don't need to venture far from home to acquire it. I figure the Bull Moose I downed this past season is equivalent to about 4 grand worth of store bought beef and the cost to acquire it was only a few percent of that value. Plus it's organic. A windfall really. As well as a nice rack to display.
Did you buy a tag to hunt that moose? How about the cost of your rig to kill it, how much did you spend on ammo to sight in. How much were your boots, coat, gloves, knife to gut it. Did you use your 4 wheeler to drag it or or maybe a canoe or a boat oh ya gas??? Did you cost out your time and labour field to freezer??? Now do the math.
prairie lover
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I agree 100%. I would have some sharp words for some guys on this tread in a real life conversation/debate. I have yet to meet the guy/girl who would shoot the spiker standing beside the 180 class 6x6. or the 200 pound black bear beside the 450 pound. if you cant find the big one then ya take whatevers legal but don't judge someone who wouldn't. the more you hunt the more selective you will become especially early in the season and where game is plentiful. when its not then that's different. you will learn much more by letting animals pass and observe them than you ever will with the brown its down I just want the meat attitude.
best thing that ever happened to me was Manitoba going bucks only where I hunt. before there was too much of the brown its down. now young bucks and does get a pass. till late season then all bucks are on the hitlist. observing deer up close, passing on legal stuff, seeing how they react, interact all that is 100 times more satisfactory than back when we shot the first doe that came by. Those who think hunting is just about killing something miss the whole point.
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