Its to specialized for gunsmiths.
Would be faster using a flat surface and sandpaper to do the work than a surface grinder. It also couldnt be used on all guns. (Very few that i can think of with a perfectly flat reciever)
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Its to specialized for gunsmiths.
Would be faster using a flat surface and sandpaper to do the work than a surface grinder. It also couldnt be used on all guns. (Very few that i can think of with a perfectly flat reciever)
I have both and I'm not sure I follow. I'm not talking about some MacGiver compromised setup, I'm referring to this:
or this:
Fitted with one of these:
My knee mill is not a surface grinder. Neither is my lathe. Could something be gerry-rigged for a one-off job? Probably. But it would be a compromise and the resultant product would not be as first rate as if I used the right tool. Also, I don't relish the thought of depositing silica dust all over the my precision machine ways.
The only shop I ever saw with a surface grinder in-house was a shop in the US maybe 20 years ago that had one set up specifically for a Mauser 98 action in a dividing head to grind military receivers true as part of custom builds.
It's not a common item.
Dlask might have one, as they manufacture a lot of pistol slides. Dunno.
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I know exactly what a surface grinder is ......
yes I have used a few of them , yes I have used a few other machines set up as grinders ......... they where all very accurate and precise .
the same thing can easily be replicated in a milling machine , and with some work a lathe ...... I supposed one could even be setup in a large drill press .
your only limited by your imagination .
it isn't that difficult .
it is all about how it is setup
yes I have used a few of them , yes I have used a few other machines set up as grinders ......... they where all very accurate and precise .
the same thing can easily be replicated in a milling machine , and with some work a lathe ...... I supposed one could even be setup in a large drill press .
your only limited by your imagination .
it isn't that difficult .
it is all about how it is setup
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I don't know where you pulled that number from ....... but I have to disagree with you on that .....
it is all about how the machine is set up , the care and attention to detail of the guy running it , and the quality of the measuring instruments .
How much do you think a gunsmith makes ? If you want that kind of accuracy (when it isnt needed on the majority of firearms) you arent gonna want to pay for it. Most gunsmiths dont have much training in the way of tool and die.
No gunsmith is going to have a clean air room with air guage measuing equipment with calibrated granite slabs for touchoff.
Most get by with basic calipers, and some micromiters.
I have both and I'm not sure I follow. I'm not talking about some MacGiver compromised setup, I'm referring to this:
I can tell you that this machine is @ $16000. set up and can be outfitted with a computer controler. Very nice gear indeed and high on my wishlist right after 5 axis mill.
There are others available for less.
Your slide can be fixed but not cheaply unfortunatly. I also believe you were slightly overcharged for sub-grade work. I can also tell you that most smiths are not charging enough either. What most do not realize is the cost of tooling,(cutters,stones,fixtures and equipment) to do perfect work cost a lot of $$$.
Claven is absolutly correct though that slide needs to be in hand for a proper assesment. Cameras and such can distort straight lines crooked and vice-versa.
Are you sure Clarence worked on it ? He usually does awesome work. Not doubting you. Just wondering. In the end its a Para P-13. There isn't much collector value and its hard to sell at the best of times. Try to get compensated and go shoot your gun. BBB means nothing if the company is not registered there and they performed the work so I don't think there could be a charge back from the CC company. If Clarence did the work, what was his response ?
The reason I ask is I can't see Gunnar sending this out to get done.
The reason I ask is I can't see Gunnar sending this out to get done.
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Clarence did the work, they basically say that it's not a very valuable firearm so in the end it really doesn't matter. They won't do anything for me or admitt they messed up either.
That would mean, the quality of there work depends on the value of the item...In my opinion, this just proves there not professionals and lack proper machinery and tooling to perform such jobs.
I will pray and ask forgiveness for them.
In the end im out the $350 and will be selling the gun, hopefully to someone who is "Blind"
That would mean, the quality of there work depends on the value of the item...In my opinion, this just proves there not professionals and lack proper machinery and tooling to perform such jobs.
I will pray and ask forgiveness for them.
In the end im out the $350 and will be selling the gun, hopefully to someone who is "Blind"
I have to agree that 350 is steep for a slide polish. I think you forgot to mention the cerakote of the front sight and the re- blue of the rear sight. Or was that extra. Was the 350 including tax and shipping ? We might as well get all the facts.
The work order was for Slide and Frame refinishing, as well as refinishing of the front and rear sights (cerakote and bluing) I have no problems with the other work they did. Which is why I'm only asking they refund the amount for the work they messed up. I'd have too review the receipt, but I remember it being around $350 at the end.
The issue here though is the manor in which they sanded and polished the flats of the slide. I imagine there must be a machine for this purpose, that does the job insuring trueness too the surface. Whatever they did they didn't do it right, and too this day will do nothing.
The issue here though is the manor in which they sanded and polished the flats of the slide. I imagine there must be a machine for this purpose, that does the job insuring trueness too the surface. Whatever they did they didn't do it right, and too this day will do nothing.
Sadly , it happens all the time ; you pay hard earned cash , and you get sub-standard work in return . Short of Small Claims Court , there is not much you can do as they have your money , and you are stuck with a poor job .....on the bright side , at least the gun is still functioning and useable...
I too think you should sell, and try to forget the experience. Easier that way, no point in keeping the pistol around as a reminder.
But in all honesty, the next owner might not even notice the flaws, or care. It's only a big deal to you because of the history.
But in all honesty, the next owner might not even notice the flaws, or care. It's only a big deal to you because of the history.
