Disney and the Boyes ATR

I have a large collection of banned disney cartoons on CD from WW2...

Most are straight out racist against the "Krauts and Nips"....

Nothing like seeing Bugs bunny put on a Geisha outfit to confuse the "dirty japs"

Very humurous though.
 
I like the Boys video (number one) where Hitler goes to meet the devil. Doesn't the devil kind of remind you of Southpark?

I am now on my second Boys rifle. I have had it rebarrelled to 50 cause it's so cheap (and available) to shoot.
 
stencollector said:
I am now on my second Boys rifle. I have had it rebarrelled to 50 cause it's so cheap (and available) to shoot.
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How is the conversion done? Is the barrel bored out and re-lined, or is it a new, one-off barrel?

How difficult are the bolt head/mag mods?
 
haha, pretty funny, especially the first one! it sort of misleading as to their effectiveness! that armour just caves in! looks like the devil is on our side also, lol.
 
Tyler said:
How is the conversion done? Is the barrel bored out and re-lined, or is it a new, one-off barrel?

How difficult are the bolt head/mag mods?
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Barrel is completely new. There are no bolt mods. The 50 is slightly longer, so a groove is milled in to the front of the magazine. I still have feeding problems to work out, but they will wait until spring.

haha, pretty funny, especially the first one! it sort of misleading as to their effectiveness! that armour just caves in! looks like the devil is on our side also, lol.
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Notice how the nazi tanks just make a popping sound, but the boys rifles sound like howitzers? God help the soldior who bought in to this.

With .55 amo, my first Boys would easily penetrate 3/4" steel plate. We lined up a bunch of plates, and it went through the first, and was poking out of the second plate. That was at 100 yards. Once you take in to account the angle of incidence, it would have to be a light tank to be at all effective.
 
stencollector said:
With .55 amo, my first Boys would easily penetrate 3/4" steel plate. We lined up a bunch of plates, and it went through the first, and was poking out of the second plate. That was at 100 yards. Once you take in to account the angle of incidence, it would have to be a light tank to be at all effective.
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Yeah, by WW2 they really where past their best before date, but they where better then nothing , and after Dunkirk that was pretty much what the brit's had left:( . They where used to good account as a armoured car up gun, and in the african campaign where many italian tanks had very thin skins. Apparently the got some use in the burma campaigns as bunker busters as well...
 
All nations were using ATR's, but they were gasping by 1939. Funny how the "Anti-material" rifle is coming back in vogue again! New name, same game.
 
heh, yeah not a huge amount of use to them besides light armored vehicles. Doesnt look like it would be fun to fire more then a few rounds. then again if you have to fire more then 5 shots at your target maybe you should re think your current position.

Even the small AT weapons like the Pak 36 were pretty much useless by 41. haha guess thats why they named it the door knocker.
 
WWII spec penetration data.


Labbett & Brown, 1988
"Technical Ammunition Guide Series 2 Pamphlet 8, British Anti-Tank Rifle ammunition 1917-1945", P Labbett and F A Brown, Labbett-Brown, 1988. Proof penetration by 7 out of 10 bullets at 100 metres range and 20º angle of strike, armour type unspecified:

Boys anti-tank rifle firing: Penetration
Cartridge SA Armour Piercing .55 inch W Mark 1 16 mm
Cartridge SA Armour Piercing .55 inch W Mark 2 19 mm
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Those #'s are vs ARMOUR plate which is substantially harder than mild steel plate.German Tanks averaged 10-20 mm armour at the start of WWII.
So did Briish Cruiser tanks. French gear was thicker but cast.
 
Pz I was 13mm at the front
Pz II was 20mm
Pz III I think started at 30-40mm

Most of the tanks in the German army during the invasion of France were Pz I & II, but with CAS, combinded arms tactics, radio's and Commanders with balls. Meanwhile the majority German infantry and artillery were still using horses, actually the BEF was the most mechanized army there, just useless Commanders.
 
Colin said:
Pz I was 13mm at the front
Pz II was 20mm
Pz III I think started at 30-40mm

Most of the tanks in the German army during the invasion of France were Pz I & II, but with CAS, combinded arms tactics, radio's and Commanders with balls.
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There were also about 1000 tanks from the Czech works roughly equivlant to the Pz mk2, or somewhat better but not quite mk 3 standard.
Meanwhile the majority German infantry and artillery were still using horses, actually the BEF was the most mechanized army there, just useless Commanders.
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Not really a fair comment unless you are referring to the french commanders only. The BEF was not large enough to make a difference on its own.
 
Yep the PZ 35 & 38, I knew about them, but didn't want to confuse everybody, I just had a discussion on another site about them, the PZ38 had about 40mm, mosty flat and rivited.

Almost all of the tanks were still vulnerable to ATR's from the side and rear until the Pz IV and upgraded Pz III. the Russians kept their ATR throughout the war.
 
Cocked&Locked said:
Yeah, by WW2 they really where past their best before date, but they where better then nothing , and after Dunkirk that was pretty much what the brit's had left:( . They where used to good account as a armoured car up gun, and in the african campaign where many italian tanks had very thin skins. Apparently the got some use in the burma campaigns as bunker busters as well...
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Don't forget that they landed in Dieppe as well. There is accounts of one being used against entrenched positions.

The post Dieppe photos of captured weapons on the beach show a few Boys rifles.
 
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