Dispute over SMD-12 classification

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This post is to provide information to all of you and to those who have purchased the Dlask Arms short-barreled shotgun. A dispute has arisen as to whether it is a non-restricted firearm or a restricted firearm. Similarly, the Dlask P.A.C. 5 (pump-action) Carbine is the focus of an identical dispute.

As it stand right now the DLASK modified Remington 870 with 8.5” and pistol grip is currently NON-restricted and only the SMD-12 marked receivers are restricted.

We are moving to have these matters brought into a court and ruled upon by a judge. The only person in Canada authorized to decide such questions is a judge sitting in a court of criminal law. This will be done by transferring a sample firearm of each type to David A. Tomlinson, National President of the National Firearms Association. Once an application to transfer each firearm as a non-restricted firearm has been made, the Registrar may issue a registration certificate, or refuse to issue a registration certificate. If it is refused, Mr. Tomlinson will commence a reference hearing, as it is his right under FA s. 74 and 75. In that way, a legal decision can be obtained.

It should be noted that the Registrar may not alter the wording on an application, as Mr. Kingsley Beattie established that point in a court of law a few years ago. The Registrar must deal with Mr. Tomlinson's application to register as it stands, and using only the words written on the application by Mr. Tomlinson.

All of our customers that received a shotgun which has "SMD-12" ENGRAVED ON LEFT SIDE OF RECEIVER should be aware that the firearm will be treated as restricted. All of you that have received shotgun engraved as such please contact us and we will exchange it for you with another Remington 870 in same configuration, with pistol grip and 8.5 barrel which is still treated as NON-restricted. We will exchange it for you for free and cover shipping cost in both ways.

Again for now, only the SMD12 (marked receiver) model shotgun is restricted. We will notify you if there will be a new FRT number issued in future, stating restricted status of the other Remington 870 shotguns (not marked SMD-12) that you purchased from us. If that happens, as per advice of our lawyer, it will be important to maintain non-restricted status until this issue is resolved in the court of law. That can be done by substituting the pistol grip stock with the full size stock. We will be supplying all of our customers with the full size stock FOR FREE AND WE WILL COVER THE SHIPPING COST.

We would like to thank Mr. Tomlinson for all his efforts including possibly representing us in court of law if required. He insisted that he wanted to do this FOR FREE and this is too big of an issue for Canadian firearms community, to be dropped. Dlask Arms will be covering all legal and court expenses.

Please understand that we are not in control over this, but we are doing everything that we can in order to positively resolve this issue.

We will, of course, keep you informed.

Thanks,
D.A.C.
 
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I hate to say I told you so but I figured this was going to happen. and was holding off on getting one for a while.

but I wish you luck, and if you win the court ruling I'll be in line to buy one the next day. as I'm sure lots of people will.
 
We are moving to have these matters brought into a court and ruled upon by a judge.

Are there any judges in this country that weren't appointed by Liberals ?
 
As it stand right now the DLASK modified Remington 870 with 8.5” and pistol grip is currently NON-restricted and only the SMD-12 marked receivers are restricted.

Holy #### that is retarded.

Tagged for interest.
 
Can't say I'm surprised. Oh well, wait and see how it turns out...

And to all those who shot down anyone who questioned the non-restricted status... :rolleyes:
 
This is exactly why I haven't ordered yet......was due/bound to happen in this country........nothing makes sense and nothing good/useful stays that way............
 
I can see this thread bringing out alot of people to gloat : "I told you so" rather than: "Attaboy, guys, give 'em hell!!":rolleyes:

I am sure this wasn't entirely unexpected by Dlask or anyone else.

So, ATTABOY GUYS, GIVE 'EM HELL!!';)
 
I got one knowing there was risk. The risk is worth it IMO especially if it's finally ruled Non restricted, as it will open up many more doors for us. I consider my purchase as a contribution to the cause. I also thank DLask for doing/trying this, and supporting their customers with whatever the outcome.
 
+1...
Yah, we all knew it was goin' ta happen....
Just thankful somebody is still able to fund this fight, with thier own hard earned cash... :rockOn:
 
sone said:
Can't say I'm surprised. Oh well, wait and see how it turns out...

And to all those who shot down anyone who questioned the non-restricted status... :rolleyes:
heheh, no kidding, good luck lads! Hope this gets sorted out quickly, and in your favor!
 
pl_2ic said:
So, are unopistoleros and ponts going to comment on this thread? As I recall they were flaming anyone who questioned the fact that these super-shorties would really, really, really be non-restricted...

Glad I held off.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155147
First off I am in no way affliated with Dlask. These are personal comments and do not represent DLASK's views.

The 8.5" pistol grip 870's are still non-restricted only SMD-12 marked receivers are restricted and I never said that they would always remain non-restricted indefinately I said FOR NOW.

Did you think all pistols would remain restricted in the 90's or did you not buy one in case they go prohib...?? We came very close to losing all handguns when Martin planned on banning them did you sell all of yours then?

When good people go the extra mile to get cool products they should be supported and not told HAHA I told you so.


Did you also know that the CFC and RCMP received many calls originating from members here on this very site asking for the 8.5" 870 to be PROHIBITED!!

People with a beef against DLASK, Dealers looking to protect there own investments or Anti's who knows???? Very disturbing.
 
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ponts said:
Did you also know that the CFC and RCMP received many calls originating from members here on this very site asking for the 8.5" 870 to be PROHIBITED!!

People with a beef against DLASK, Dealers looking to protect there own investments or Anti's who knows???? Very disturbing.

There always seems to be some grumpy ####### aroiund. Probably the same sort of people that call 911 after seeing a MACHINE GUN (AR15) at the range.

Any idea why the SMD12 marked receivers are restricted but not the 870 marked ones? That doesn't make sense to me at all, I would have thought that it would be the other way around.
 
Imposter said:
There always seems to be some grumpy a**hole aroiund. Probably the same sort of people that call 911 after seeing a MACHINE GUN (AR15) at the range.

Any idea why the SMD12 marked receivers are restricted but not the 870 marked ones? That doesn't make sense to me at all, I would have thought that it would be the other way around.


It will get sorted out one way or another....possibly in court. For now that is the way they are handled by CFC.
 
I had my doubts about this. I thought it was just too good to be true without confrontation by some authorities.

It all is within how one interprets the legislation... and that will be done by a judge.

Three cheers for Dlask and hopefully this is resolved favourably.
 
all i have to say dlask is your the man! and we need to support u more next gun i buy will be from u anyway we can help the fight?
 
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