Distance to lands

604shooter

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I'm just wondering what you guys do to measure your bullet distance to your rifle's lands. I'm currently using a black felt tipped marker and checking for marks on the bullet from the rifling when chambering.
 
I back the bullet off .010 from the lands. I used to do the felt marker but now i use a case with the neck not resized so the bullet is not tight in the neck. Slide the cartridge in the chamber with bullet just in the neck and with bolt closed the bullet will be touching the lands. I measure that length and back it off .010.
 
How to determine maximum cartridge length.

What you need:
• Cleaning rod (plastic-coated preferred)
• Sharp-point felt tip pen
• Accurate measuring device

How to do it:
• Make sure the rifle is unloaded.
• #### the bolt and close it, so that the firing pin is retracted.
• Insert the cleaning rod from the muzzle end, until it stops against the bolt face.
• Holding it tight against the bolt face, make a mark with a sharp felt-tipped pen on the rod.
• Remove the rod and set aside.
• Open the bolt and remove from the rifle.
• Take an unloaded bullet (not a cartridge, bullet only) and drop it into the chamber, so that it stops against the lands of the barrel.
• Use a pencil or other short object (wooden dowel, screwdriver) and press the bullet tight against the lands and hold it there with one hand.
• With the other hand (or get help if needed) insert the cleaning rod from the muzzle end until it stops against the bullet, without pushing the bullet away from the lands.
• Make a mark on the rod with your felt-tipped pen.
• Accurately measure the distance between the 2 marks on the rod.
• This distance is your maximum loaded cartridge length for the bullet used, in your rifle’s chamber.
• Subtract 1 millimeter (~1/16 inch) from this length for the optimum cartridge length.
• If you switch to a different bullet, repeat this process for the new bullet.
• For some older rifles with long leads (ledes?), this determined maximum cartridge length may be too long to fit the magazine box and the max. length will have to be adjusted accordingly.
 
Johan22's method is the most fool proof without a high tech gauge I think. I've used it for years. I keep a 30" long 1/4" dia. wooden dowel handy with a flat end for the purpose (vary dowel dia. with bore dia.) .

I wrap light coloured masking tape around the dowel (or cleaning rod) as it is easy to mark and replaceable when doing another rifle.

Also, if you make up a dummy round (NO POWDER,NO PRIMER) with a COAL to feed or fit your mag, you can chamber it and use the rod and mark it, and then drop a loose projectile into the lands and mark it again. You then will immediately view graphically the jump to the lands without any calculations - as being two marks close together.
 
I use the rod method now, but use a pair of drill bit stop collars on the rod and measure between them with a set of dial calipers. The collars are worth about a buck and are far more accurate than any marker or tape.
 
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