dlask ar15 lower forging

[ssapach]

A set just sold at Ward's Auction on the 14th for $150.

So, still legal to sell. Apparently profitable considering they used to be like $70/set.

 

[I Dont Care About You]

No, it absolutely doesn't.

Of course it does. There is little to no machining done to the exterior of the forging.

Forgings save machine time. They aren't (ever?) mostly complete guns. That still doesn't leave this question with a clear and established answer.

But they are partly complete guns. And there is no clear answer.

 

[FatCatsDad]

Of course it does. There is little to no machining done to the exterior of the forging.



But they are partly complete guns. And there is no clear answer.

This is also a partly complete gun if my intention is to complete it.

Or a single scribe line, punch mark etc make it partially complete.

 

[tiriaq]

Found this photo of a forging on the 'net.
Not quite a rectangular block of aluminum. The exterior contours and surfaces are essentially finished. The only external machining is that required to install parts. Substantial internal machining to be done.

 

[KDW__]

Found this photo of a forging on the 'net.
Not quite a rectangular block of aluminum. The exterior contours and surfaces are essentially finished. The only external machining is that required to install parts. Substantial internal machining to be done.
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Looked it up once and it actually requires a fair bit of external machining still, with some of it appearing to be important to do before any internal machining so that everything lines up properly. It's easy enough to look up online just how much work this forging requires to be made functional. It's not a project for someone who doesn't have some kind of machine shop experience and at least a couple important things like a mill and a drill press.. Unlike the 80% complete receivers that pretty much anyone can finish with a simple jig.

 

[I Dont Care About You]

Unlike the 80% complete receivers that pretty much anyone can finish with a simple jig.

There is absolutely nothing in the law that discusses how much work is required or how difficult / technical that work is, to make a functional receiver.

The block of billet vs the forging argument (I know you didn't make that argument) is stupid. A forging is partially complete to the point it is recognizable by anyone as to what it is intended to be.

Look, I don't agree with any of what the law says or what / how the RCMP etc might interpret the laws. I'm just telling you what the law says and how it very well could be interpreted by RCMP.

FWIW I actually have a lower forging in my collection. I have no desire to complete the thing although I do have the equipment and experience to do so ... I just don't want to. There are easier ways to create an AR15 receiver.

 

[MisterJ]

At one point in time some government talking head announced that if you intend to turn it into a firearm it needed to be registered.

I present the prohibited 0% lower.

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That looks like a ghost gun if ever I saw one. Better ban it quick.

 

[deets]

Does anyone know if ordering a jig for an 80% lower is still legal? Not the evil piece that goes inside the jig, just the jig itself?

 

[Blastattack]

Does anyone know if ordering a jig for an 80% lower is still legal? Not the evil piece that goes inside the jig, just the jig itself?

Did you read post #2?