Do all hunting caliber under .275

It IS a good cartridge. And you're right that it's no beginner cartridge. Yes, it works well for recoil-averse shooters but it works well for everyone! I just wish they came standard with a faster twist rate :).

I disliked the 243 until I got married and my petite wife insisted on the lightest weight, lightest recoiling deer rifle for use on the prairie. So we got a 243. And it's amazing!

I used a 90gr Accubond on a mule deer and it held together TOO well; small wound channel with little fragmentation. I don't doubt it would drill an elk or moose with a lung shot. About 6 hours ago my wife shot her first ever animal (whitetail buck) with that 243 using a simple 100gr Interlock. Gave it a nice bang-flop with just a lung shot. Bullets that come apart a little bit work well on deer :). Still exited so what else could you ask for?

Agreed its a potent round! Bullet selection is everything in .243 however. The thinner jackets and most bullets under 90 grains can make a nasty splatter though.
 
I am curious about Ontario court's view as well?? 7 mm = .27559". That is supposed to be the "bore" size - the size of hole drilled through barrel before rifling (sort of - allowing for lapping?). Then grooves are cut - 7mm uses .284" bullets, which is often "groove" diameter, generally, but that is not "bore" size, generally. I do not know how Ontario translates "caliber" using "bore" diameter or "bullet" diameter or some other diameter - do they actually pin gauge a barrel to get an answer?? We commonly refer to "30 caliber" - a .300" "bore" using .308" bullets, generally - it that how the Ontario regulators do it??

Is it as "cut and dried" that a bore that stops a .2750" pin is "good to go", but if it allows that pin through then "too big"? If such pins even exist?
 
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What's your vote?

I'd like to have a rifle that can hunt almost anything in Canada, but most likely deer and varmint in the short/medium term with some target shooting <300y. I know 6.5 creedmoor gets a lot of votes but I'm definitely not an expert.

Apologies in advance if this has all been discussed before.

No worries. Get a rifle in .243 Win or 6.5 CM for getting the job done. Ammo for both ain't hard to find in most areas.
 
It's been a long time since I lived in Ontario but I recall F&W had a short brass rod .275" in diameter. If it would fit into your barrel the gun was illegal.
 
Court case law is what is stamped on the barrel. 275 or less is legal. If its stamped 275 rigby it is legal. If it is stamped 7x57 it is not legal. When this went to court they had a hard time deciding how to interpret each countrys measuring system and naming system and to what tolerances there should be. The judge ruled that barrel data stamps clearly state what it is. The ministry has followed suit since. Feel free to contact the ministry as i do every other year or so
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I forget the case number that went to court but it was a guy with a british accent that was using a "275 rimmed" combo gun to hunt coyotes. He was given his gun back and charges dropped
 

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I forget the case number that went to court but it was a guy with a british accent that was using a "275 rimmed" combo gun to hunt coyotes. He was given his gun back and charges dropped

Curious - could not find such a case in CanLII - but if charges were dropped, there was no court decision recorded?? With no decision, next judge free to decide however strikes them as reasonable, since no precedent to follow?? But Ministry, who would lay the "charge", seems to operate as if that is what it is. Curious - take a 338 Win Mag chambered barrel and stamp 6.5x55 on it - sounds like Ontario would be okay with that.
 
Interesting. Rebore a .270 barrel to .30-06, problem solved. :)

Curious - could not find such a case in CanLII - but if charges were dropped, there was no court decision recorded?? With no decision, next judge free to decide however strikes them as reasonable, since no precedent to follow?? But Ministry, who would lay the "charge", seems to operate as if that is what it is. Curious - take a 338 Win Mag chambered barrel and stamp 6.5x55 on it - sounds like Ontario would be okay with that.


But at the end of the day, it’s only a restriction for small game hunting anyway. Is there really that much desire to hunt coyotes with 30 Cal’s? I think most folks, with no caliber restriction at all, would still choose cartridges under 275 99% of the time.

Not to say it isn’t a dumb rule, but rather to say that going to the trouble of creating a “loophole” barrel would a lot of effort for little if any gain.
 
^ Yes, it only matters to folks that only own one rifle. Far easier and cheaper to buy a .223 over shooting groundhogs with a .270 wsm.
 
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