Do better equipment make 1/2 MOA more easy to attain?
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It is likely not so much better equipment as more appropriate equipment. 5 X 5 under 1/2 MOA is pretty easy with the right equipment and could be out of reach with good but less appropriate equipment.
The 5 shot 5 group under 1/2” has been mentioned. When I posted mine I had 9 in a row under 1/2” and I did it at 100 meters not 100 yards. It wasn’t because of extensive load development because that 9 group target had 2 different bullets, 2 different powders for 9 different loads. It wasn’t because I’m some sort of super shooter because I’m not, frankly. It wasn’t because I tried 20 times because again frankly I wasn’t even trying in the first place. Hell I was just doing a bit of preliminary load development. What I had going for me was a purpose built full on F Class rifle. A half trained ape could do 5 in row with that. It would take a pretty special ape to do it with a sporter weight rifle.
The 5 shot 5 group under 1/2” has been mentioned. When I posted mine I had 9 in a row under 1/2” and I did it at 100 meters not 100 yards. It wasn’t because of extensive load development because that 9 group target had 2 different bullets, 2 different powders for 9 different loads. It wasn’t because I’m some sort of super shooter because I’m not, frankly. It wasn’t because I tried 20 times because again frankly I wasn’t even trying in the first place. Hell I was just doing a bit of preliminary load development. What I had going for me was a purpose built full on F Class rifle. A half trained ape could do 5 in row with that. It would take a pretty special ape to do it with a sporter weight rifle.
My rcbs 10-10 and 5-0-5 both register a single stick powder kernel that I trickle on there so I don't think there is an order of magnitude more consistency with an auto trickler possible, perhaps compared to a lee safety scale..Surely you jest?The Autotrickler will be an order of magnitude more consistent than a beam scale.
Time saving; absolutely.
Yes, I corrected that in a previous post. I had another rogue that came with a target with a three shot 3/4 group target using Hornadyprecision
This rifle did not come with a target showing the three shot group
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- Delta B.C.
Yes you can... cut a kernel...I just tried my new FX scale and compared my beam scales.beam scales were a couple of kernels +\-
The digital scale was out half a kernel .
I guess I could have split the kernel in half
I don't think it matters if you use a beam or digi scale... You need to be very wary of air currents around your equipment. The slightest air current against the pan will change the results. This is the big thing with the V4... everyone doesn't seem to look at the invisible influence on your measuring device... But it's there... Cheers
Jayzus,There’s a 50 meter range close by so I tried her out.
Factoring Hornady 143 precision hunter
Second picture was mid load 7828 Hornady 143 elf-x.
First three were tight last two opened it up.
Odd thing was mid load 7828 called for 2900 fps out of a 26 inch barrel.
I was averaging 3000 fps out of a 20 inch barrel.
Getting an extraction swipe too
Also, I was using bags and I adjusted the Bix n Andy trigger to just a touch over 1 lb.
She’s touchy
What kind of barrel contour u got there?
Those groups are NOT a good indicator.
Are we all lake trout here?
I feel like I am being trolled
Yes,I hate to admit it but that’s probably the issue.
I like to shoot a bit fast as well,
But having said that, a buddy was recently having a hard time with his open sights on his ranger rifle (tikka .308) and wasn’t sure if it was him or the sights.
I fired 3 shots at a hundred and it grouped at around 3 inches.
Maybe just luck
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We all expect to find perfection.... within our limitation to count to three or five....
But we should always consult the book of armaments.....
But we should always consult the book of armaments.....
OP: I think you need a mentor. Check with your local range. It’ll save you a ton of time.
I just got back from the range, where I was working with a woman shooting her new 10/22. A friend and I put new aperture sights on her rifle, and at 20 yards, she was putting 5 rounds in a dime, using Blazer. She was doing this over and over, and she’s just getting used to it.
I just got back from the range, where I was working with a woman shooting her new 10/22. A friend and I put new aperture sights on her rifle, and at 20 yards, she was putting 5 rounds in a dime, using Blazer. She was doing this over and over, and she’s just getting used to it.
The second group of Hornady measures. 9 MOA, maybe I’ll play around with that.
Also got some Berger and Hornady CX to try.
Maybe switch up the primers too.
Like I mentioned already,I had a cheap Winchester XPR that grouped better than this and much easier to find a load it liked.
Realistically if I can get this to group under an inch I’d be satisfied as it’s only a hunting rifle.
The 1/2 Minute is out the window lol
Also got some Berger and Hornady CX to try.
Maybe switch up the primers too.
Like I mentioned already,I had a cheap Winchester XPR that grouped better than this and much easier to find a load it liked.
Realistically if I can get this to group under an inch I’d be satisfied as it’s only a hunting rifle.
The 1/2 Minute is out the window lol
Bustercluck
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Try the 156 berger eol with h1000 and load them up close to rifling. They’re really accurate out a long ways and they carry their energy further than most others. I’ve shot them out to a km and making repeated hits on a 1 moa plate from my hunting rifle. I have a few friends shooting them too.
As long as your barrel is 1-8” or faster.
