just had an interesting chat with an RO at the RA range, he was saying my barrel is too short and that it was restricted. I told him that its OAL for .22 that determines that its restricted. Thankfully a few other shooters there that knew that the OAL was good to go. But then he wanted to see my registration to see what it says for barrel lenght, i didn't call the CFO to change the barrel length so it didn't match. should i have done this?
do i have to change registration card with new barrel on 10/22?
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Perhaps you are the type of person who likes to use multiple barrel lengths. I have one shotgun that I switch back and forth between three different barrels (of three different lenghts).
I could be wrong about the this part as I am going from a poor memory; however, I was under the impression that you had thirty (30) days to inform the CFC of barrel length changes. As long as your went back to the original length within that time frame I believe that you would be good to go. Again, I am going from memory regarding this issue.
Regards,
Chizzy
I could be wrong about the this part as I am going from a poor memory; however, I was under the impression that you had thirty (30) days to inform the CFC of barrel length changes. As long as your went back to the original length within that time frame I believe that you would be good to go. Again, I am going from memory regarding this issue.
Regards,
Chizzy
If the firearm does not change class, you do not need to inform the CFC. Therefore no change in Cert.
As you know, semi auto rimfires are exempt from the 18.5" barrel rule as per the CCC.
You'd only have to worry if your 10/22 has been modified to fire while reduced to less then 26" OAL,
As you know, semi auto rimfires are exempt from the 18.5" barrel rule as per the CCC.
You'd only have to worry if your 10/22 has been modified to fire while reduced to less then 26" OAL,
thats what i thought too, rimfires just need an OAL above 26" but the RO was giving me a hard time saying that my gun doesnt match the registration and i can't bring it back unless it does...Eric do you have a link to a CFO pages that states those conditions that i can bring with me next time. they actually recorded my name and membership number to check next time i come...
Check your reg certificate. Mine just says barrel length "less than 470 mm". I have an 11.5" barrel for it plus I had the factory 18" barrel cut down to 15.5". I emailed the CFC before I had this done and their responce was that it does not change the classification, therefore does not need a new reg certificate as Eric mentions.
i installed a 12" dlask barrel on my 10/22 and just called the cfc to confirm, they asked me to measure it with a tape measure to confirm the manufacturers claim, then sent me a revised cert. with the "470mm or less" instead of "470 or greater" under the barrel length.
it doesn't change it to restricted or prohib.
if you did this, you wouldn't have to waste time explaining it the next time this douche asks you
it doesn't change it to restricted or prohib.
if you did this, you wouldn't have to waste time explaining it the next time this douche asks you
Sounds like you made a friend! For some reason some people need to be arrogant and an expert on everything. I understant the need to potentially be anal about gun control and safety, but as the RO he should definately know the regulations and not act like that unless he does.
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Jeez, I'd find a new range to shoot at
At my range the RO is a super great guy and very knowledgeable about everything. Of course my range is in my back yardKim
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who is the ro ? ......
meaning does he have the authority to demand to see your paper work ?
meaning does he have the authority to demand to see your paper work ?
I changed the reg certificates on mine to reflect the 11.5" barrels I put on mine.
To the untrained eye, they "appear" to be restricted and since I use my for rabbits, I knew the day would come when I would have to explain to some LEO that is was indeed non restricted.
Anyhow, I have the Tapco stocks on mine (I have 2) and both have a photocopy of the reg certificate stored in the compartment within the pistol grip.
To the untrained eye, they "appear" to be restricted and since I use my for rabbits, I knew the day would come when I would have to explain to some LEO that is was indeed non restricted.
Anyhow, I have the Tapco stocks on mine (I have 2) and both have a photocopy of the reg certificate stored in the compartment within the pistol grip.
Hi, guys. It's funny because I just went through the same thing. Here are some hints:
1- Most important thing is that you never cut down a factory barrel under 18.5in. NEVER!!! Not even gunsmiths do that. It becomes an illegal item and you can be in real deep sh*t so if you do so... Get rid of it, throw it ti garbage, throw in a dumb... Anywhere.
2- You have to check your rifle certification: if its already written 470mm or less, and you buy another barrel that is out from factory between 106mm and 470mm, you don,t do nothing (your rifle certificate doesn't change.) !!!but keep in mind that your OAL has to stay above 26.5in.
3- If your rifle's'original certificate said 470mm or greater, after buying the new shorter barrel, you have to tell the cfc and go see a gunsmith. He will produce a verification chart and send it to the cfc saying that you changed your barrel lenght but you're still an OAL above 26.5in and wait for a new FRT number. Then you'll receive you new certificate saying 470mm or less.
Remember that if you keep doing things correctly and stay a lawabyding person, no body, no RO, or police officer can be an ass with you because you do the correct things. Besides, if your RO is an ass and you want to freak him out, you buy the Bond Arms Snake slayer with 4.25 inch, which is the shorter restricted handgun, non 12(6).
1- Most important thing is that you never cut down a factory barrel under 18.5in. NEVER!!! Not even gunsmiths do that. It becomes an illegal item and you can be in real deep sh*t so if you do so... Get rid of it, throw it ti garbage, throw in a dumb... Anywhere.
2- You have to check your rifle certification: if its already written 470mm or less, and you buy another barrel that is out from factory between 106mm and 470mm, you don,t do nothing (your rifle certificate doesn't change.) !!!but keep in mind that your OAL has to stay above 26.5in.
3- If your rifle's'original certificate said 470mm or greater, after buying the new shorter barrel, you have to tell the cfc and go see a gunsmith. He will produce a verification chart and send it to the cfc saying that you changed your barrel lenght but you're still an OAL above 26.5in and wait for a new FRT number. Then you'll receive you new certificate saying 470mm or less.
Remember that if you keep doing things correctly and stay a lawabyding person, no body, no RO, or police officer can be an ass with you because you do the correct things. Besides, if your RO is an ass and you want to freak him out, you buy the Bond Arms Snake slayer with 4.25 inch, which is the shorter restricted handgun, non 12(6).
And this is wrong. You could do it if it really tickles your fancy to waste time.... but not necessary. What you want to do with your certificates to make you sleep better at night is your thing, but do not mis-represent "what you did" with "what is actually required".
If the barrel swap does not change the class of your firearm, you do not need a certificate change. Plain and simple.
it takes 5 minutes on the phone with the cfc to get the barrel length changed, and could save you from a big PITA later when a LEO asks to see your registration card and the info doesn't line up
Fill yer boots!
Those wasky LEO's will getcha!If an LEO is uninformed/misinformed enough to not understand what constitutes a non-rest, restricted or prohibited firearm, he/she will be a big PITA regardless of what your certificate says when it comes to non-restricted short barrelled firearms. (It IS just a piece of paper, right?)
Anyhow, my certificate for my 10/22 says "470mm or greater", and I'm not sweating my 12" barrel.
