do i have to change registration card with new barrel on 10/22?
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reply to eric 911,
you're right about the 660cm = 26in, my calculation was wrong (i thaught it was 26.5in)
But anyways, its the cfc that told me to get the verification chart to verify the rifle lenght, and i had a month to send the written verification. But its your choice not to call them, you're right, but I think its better to be safe then sorry. My ruger remains non-restricted, but with the mention of lenght of barrel:470mm or less.
you're right about the 660cm = 26in, my calculation was wrong (i thaught it was 26.5in)
But anyways, its the cfc that told me to get the verification chart to verify the rifle lenght, and i had a month to send the written verification. But its your choice not to call them, you're right, but I think its better to be safe then sorry. My ruger remains non-restricted, but with the mention of lenght of barrel:470mm or less.
A barrel length that doesn't match the information held in the Registry will surface if the rifle is ever sold. When the sight unseen verifier in Miramichi asks for the barrel length, the description will not match the Registry data.
now let me see if I have this straight.....cutting a factory barrel less than 18.5" changes the status to prohibited....now if I buy a barrel (factory) at say 16 inches it remains legal.. I just have to inform CFC..right?..what if I buy a factory barrel that was 18 then cut it to 16 how does CFC know what the barrel started out as?..what is the verifier chart?..thanks
on my 2 aftermarket barrels, the manufacturer stamped their name and the barrel length on the barrel.
now, i suppose you could hammer a stamp on it after cutting it to try and make it appear legit, but that's illegal, and i personally wouldn't risk it, especially when 10/22 barrels of almost any length are plentiful and affordable
elimsprint
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Do what I have done. Sell it as a receiver only, no barrel length on the new registration. The barrels are non registered so the buyer has bought a receiver and separate barrel. Problem solved.
Kim
I have never had the CFC ask barrel length on a gun that was already registered when doing a transfer.
As I understand it... You may not cut a barrel to a length shorter than 18", however, if the barrel was manufactured with a length shorter than 18", then it is ok.
Your registration card should reflect whether the barrel is shorter or longer than 470mm, a simple phone call to the CFC will get the card updated to match.
I have not met your RO, but he sounds like a douche on a power trip, and needs a good
As I understand it... You may not cut a barrel to a length shorter than 18", however, if the barrel was manufactured with a length shorter than 18", then it is ok.
Your registration card should reflect whether the barrel is shorter or longer than 470mm, a simple phone call to the CFC will get the card updated to match.
I have not met your RO, but he sounds like a douche on a power trip, and needs a good
There are reporting requirements for some changes.
One requirement is to report when a receiver becomes capable of discharging ammunition.
So your method does not solve a problem, it potentially creates another.
It is a requirement to report certain changes within 30 days. The requirement is not to report changes which still exist after 30 days. Make one of the listed changes, and it must be reported. The 30 day limit is for reporting the modification, not for the duration of the modification.
As far as barrel cutting goes, if a barrel is cut to below the specified minimum, the firearm becomes prohibited. It does not matter if the barrel was below the minimum to begin with. 20" barrel cut to 16" = prohibited firearm. 16" barrel cut to 15" = prohibited firearm.
A cut rifle barrel is not a prohibited device. A rifle with a cut barrel is a prohibited firearm.
Was a short barrel manufactured at that length, or is it a cut down factroy barrel? Anyone who thinks it would be impossible to determine the difference is kidding himself.
Something else to consider - a longarm with a much abbreviated barrel does stand out. It will attract attention and questions. Might be a RO as in the OP's initial post. Most clubs do not want illegal firearms being used; this is likely what was in the RO's mind. In the OP's case, the RO was in error.
Had the OP encountered a LEO, instead of a RO, clarification of the legality of the fiream could have been more serious.
He might be. He might be a power tripping prick.
But as RO he is also responsible for the use of the range while he was there. Most clubs would be nervous about use of illegal firearms on their ranges.
RO in this case was wrong about the legality of the rifle.
But was he wrong to ask?
elimsprint
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What I meant was the buyer then registers it with the shorter barrel if they so choose but it stops any questions or problems when selling with a shorter than registered barrel.
My TC Pro Hunter is registered as a receiver only, are you saying I have to report to the CFC every time I install a different barrel on it? I have 4 barrels for it varying from 15"-28" in different calibers. I have 3 different barrels for my HP9 shotgun, am I supposed to report to them each time I change the barrel as they are all different lengths but all non restricted with the Knoxx stock on it?
Kim
elimsprint
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If the RO or LEO wants to enforce the law then they should damn well KNOW the law they are trying to enforce. If they don't and still try to enforce it then they are ignorant a**holes in my book and deserve to be treated and thought of as such.
Kim
elimsprint
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I'm going to. When I bought the gun it was a receiver/buttstock/forearm and a separate 7mm Rem Mag barrel. The gun/receiver had originally been registered as a .223 but that barrel had been sold. I talked to the CFC and was told to register it as a receiver only and that I didn't need to register the barrels. I have only been through 1 road block with it and neither the CO or RCMP got excited. They checked the registration against the gun and they did ask about the lack of caliber and barrel length on the registration. I explained it was a multi barrel firearm and luckily had an extra barrel with me to show them and I was quickly let go. They were more excited about the HP9 in its' registered 14" evil black and green form even though it was plugged and legal for hunting.
Kim
