Do russian citizens have access to new production SKS?

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I was lurking the depths of youtube and found a video where this russian guy unboxes what looks like a new production sks. Beautiful wood, good finish on the metal, and what looks like the russian style side scope mount (posp?). The vid is in russian and i can't make heads or tails of it, but if we could get new production sks, that would be SWEET

Vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiazyfmkjCM
 
No I don't think so. Why don't you buy type 81 from norinco? The platform was based on sks and with everything better. It is new production because the milsurps 81 barrel is too short for Canadian.
 
Bushbum40 said:
I was lurking the depths of youtube and found a video where this russian guy unboxes what looks like a new production sks. Beautiful wood, good finish on the metal, and what looks like the russian style side scope mount (posp?). The vid is in russian and i can't make heads or tails of it, but if we could get new production sks, that would be SWEET

Vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiazyfmkjCM
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Just a regular ol' surplus SKS re-packaged by Molot for the Russian consumer market.

OP-SKS

http://molot.biz/en/goods/op-sks.html
 
IIRC, because rifles are more strictly regulated than smoothbores in Russia some manufacturers have developed a large (>9mm) variant of the 7.62x39 cartridge for use in SKSes which have been rebarrelled with larger, smooth bores.

These rifles, as well as the Saiga shotguns, allow Russian gun owners to own a bit of their military's history without meeting the stricter regulations which surround rifles.

-B
 
Regular Molot Arms KO-SKS. Modern refurb. Carbine without possibility to mount a bayonet and with ID pin welded into barrel/chamber area. Barrel, bolt and trigger group have matching numbers. Everything else is bunch of parts put together. Reasons why buyer picked that specific specimen are because barrel is actually 7.62 and because front sight is mounted straight. Back home one needs to have a license to possess a smooth bore for 5 years before they can apply for a license to posses rifled bore. There is also a limit on number of firearms one can possess. Anything and everything is classified as "hunting carbine" in order to be sold to civilians. You could have "hunting carbine" semi auto PPSh, AKM, Maxim MG, MG34 and so on as long as it's classified as a hunting carbine. It's a loop hole that's been there for many years.

Bushbum40 said:
I was lurking the depths of youtube and found a video where this russian guy unboxes what looks like a new production sks. Beautiful wood, good finish on the metal, and what looks like the russian style side scope mount (posp?). The vid is in russian and i can't make heads or tails of it, but if we could get new production sks, that would be SWEET

Vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiazyfmkjCM
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zxcv said:
IIRC, because rifles are more strictly regulated than smoothbores in Russia some manufacturers have developed a large (>9mm) variant of the 7.62x39 cartridge for use in SKSes which have been rebarrelled with larger, smooth bores.
These rifles, as well as the Saiga shotguns, allow Russian gun owners to own a bit of their military's history without meeting the stricter regulations which surround rifles.

-B
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All milrurp converted to hunting carbines get to keep original caliber. You are thinking about BFONG and less lethal conversions here. BFONG pistols are usually 9mm and up for whatever reason. Proper caliber blanks do exist but manufacturers still re-chamber some commercial BFONGs to 9, 10, even 11 mm. Than again, Molot AK BFONGs usually come in original caliber while TT comes in 10mm, same caliber as less lethal TT's. Less lethal stuff gets larger calibers in order to increase stopping power of a rubber bullet. Maybe that's the reason, so they just get to use the same machinery to convert real deal into both classes. There is still a way to get a BFONG certificate for a weapon which uses it's original caliber but big companies re-chamber some models while releasing other models in original caliber. Only smaller companies and private parties go for original calibers, for the most part. Maybe it also has something to do with the fact that reenactors are only allowed to use BFONG during events back in the old country, unlike us or people in the US. We just use real deal and shoot blank rounds.
 
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Actually if someone were to start manufacturing the sks again in Russia, I think I would want one. But in this day and age they would have to sell for $899 with all the costs involved in building a rifle and shipping.
 
You can't beat old world craftsmanship Mosin Nagant. anything new that I have seen as of late is really expensive and I have bought brand new stuff from a big time firearms company and I had to send it for repair. not to sound negitive but they just don't make stuff like they used to .
 
Parts said:
My Russian is terrible, but did he keep saying. "Inconceivable "?
There was atleast one more riffle in the crack of the suv.
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I do not think it means what you think it means

h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D58LpHBnvsI
 
Mosin Nagant said:
Actually if someone were to start manufacturing the sks again in Russia, I think I would want one. But in this day and age they would have to sell for $899 with all the costs involved in building a rifle and shipping.
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From what I have heard, all that engraving on the side of the gun puts up into the $899 range. Engraving ain't cheap you know.:p
 
VuDu666 said:
All milrurp converted to hunting carbines get to keep original caliber. You are thinking about BFONG and less lethal conversions here. BFONG pistols are usually 9mm and up for whatever reason. Proper caliber blanks do exist but manufacturers still re-chamber some commercial BFONGs to 9, 10, even 11 mm. Than again, Molot AK BFONGs usually come in original caliber while TT comes in 10mm, same caliber as less lethal TT's. Less lethal stuff gets larger calibers in order to increase stopping power of a rubber bullet. Maybe that's the reason, so they just get to use the same machinery to convert real deal into both classes. There is still a way to get a BFONG certificate for a weapon which uses it's original caliber but big companies re-chamber some models while releasing other models in original caliber. Only smaller companies and private parties go for original calibers, for the most part. Maybe it also has something to do with the fact that reenactors are only allowed to use BFONG during events back in the old country, unlike us or people in the US. We just use real deal and shoot blank rounds.
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Actually he is thinking of the .366tkm

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/08/13/the-new-russian-shotgun-round-366-tkm-for-sks-ak-rifles/

Note, such rifles are not strictly smoothbore - there is rifling, but Russian laws consider them smoothbore...
 
zxcv said:
IIRC, because rifles are more strictly regulated than smoothbores in Russia some manufacturers have developed a large (>9mm) variant of the 7.62x39 cartridge for use in SKSes which have been rebarrelled with larger, smooth bores.

These rifles, as well as the Saiga shotguns, allow Russian gun owners to own a bit of their military's history without meeting the stricter regulations which surround rifles.

-B
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There's a few vids which link to this one where they bust out a box or two of barnaul 7.62x39. There's another brand in a red and black box that i can't make out.

For curiosities sake i converted the price on his receipt, 15 779 russian roubles comes out to 369 canadian.
 
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KotKotofeich said:
Actually he is thinking of the .366tkm

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...sian-shotgun-round-366-tkm-for-sks-ak-rifles/

Note, such rifles are not strictly smoothbore - there is rifling, but Russian laws consider them smoothbore...
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Hey, messing around with a perfectly good milsurp firearm in any way on a large scale is asking for trouble. Techcrim was always known as a manufacturer of less lethal rounds and other means of less lethal self defense, CS gas cans, ammo for "gas" pistols and so on. I guess they decided to start making real ammo now. Not the best quality products btw. Now Molot is re-boring SKS for that ammo I guess. Good luck to both companies. When in comes to real deal Molot does ok, for one simple reason - government can screw them over. When it comes to less lethal or BFONG a lot of the #### they touch ends up on gunsmith's bench really fast. Barrel pins are falling out of the BFONG guns making them real deal in the eyes of Russian law, Sometimes even real semi auto SMG's go FA after 2-3 mags/drums and so on. Local gun shop has one of those "Molotonized" TT's in stock. This past summer I stopped by a local surplus store to pick up a crate of 54R. Store also deals with firearms. Owner said that he's got bunch of $189 ($199 maybe) soviet pistols for sale. Guy brings out a TT. I looked at that poor thing and my eyes bled. It was post war pistol in really good condition. There is always a but. Thing was a Molot convert. Not a refurb, a freaking convert. Slide had all the modern crap on it plus TT-C which stands for TT-Signal'niy ( basically a flare gun or a BFONG). Smart asses took a bunch of real pistols converted to that, converted them back to original config and sold it but the stamp on the slide obviously remained. As you can imagine store owner was not happy when I explained all the stamps to him.
 
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