Do you hang/age your deer?

How long do you age your deer meat?

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It is that time of year where we go out and fill our deep freeze with deer from hunting. I was talking with a friend and we got into a discussion about how long a person should age/hang their deer meat for before cutting/wrap.
Some people do not bother aging at all and cut/wrap right away while others I have herd they age 7-10 days like a beef.
So, fellow hunters what do you prefer?
 
It is my understanding that game meat does not have the same enzymes?? as beef, so it doesn't not "age", or become more tender. Makes sense to me based on my experience of owning my own cooler and cutting my own game. What I have found with hanging is that it drys the meat, not just the exposed portions, but the entire carcass leaving you with packaged meat that does not weep blood when you are thawing it out. In my opinion it really makes no difference with the final taste or texture.

Edit: Now that my cooler is down, the cutting depends on the weather. I'll either do it right away or leave it until I have time.
 
I try to take mine apart the day of harvest. I dont have a cool place to hang. And where I'm at if left for more than 12-24 hours at this time of year it will be a solid block. And wife is not impressed when you wrestle an entire frozen critter into the house to thaw. But i also mostly grind mine for burger sausages etc. So that makes them all tender. Only usually take the inside tenders and backstraps out to cook whole as roasts or steaks. I had heard the wild game enzyme thing years ago. Dont know if its true or not. I know i took a moose in once it hung for a week. Didnt see any difference with tenderness of the roasts with fresh deboned.
 
Anything that's going for grind doesn't matter to me, it can get chopped up the next day. I usually age the hind quarter and straps 5-6 days minimum, and after last year, I'll go 12-14 days if I can (optimum temps). People will argue until they're blue in the face that their way is correct, so best you can do is try aging and see what you think. If you can't notice a difference between a day and a week of aging, you probably don't need to worry about it.
 
I've cut up one the next day, and also hanged a week, I can't really tell the difference. BBQ'd some chops last night that hanged 2.5 days(never frozen, killed friday night), very nice and tender and great taste.
It's getting harder to find places with a cooler to that can keep deer/wild meat, if weather is good I'll hang it 2-3+ days, if too warm, I'd cut up next day.
I keep debating making my own cooler and might for next year, this was a really warm season.
 
I try to let it hang a week or more if the weather is cool enough, if not it gets cut up within a couple of days. I can't say that I notice a differnce in the taste or texture either way. I have learned that it is much easier to get the hide off while the carcass is still warm.I try to get that task done within the first couple of hours nowadays.
 
Every hunter should listen to episode 227 of the meateater podcast.

A meat scientist goes into great detail about a number of game meat related topics including aging.

Basically, it all comes down to Glycogen. Mammals store glycogen in our muscles which they use for sudden and immediate energy needs. When a mammal dies, that glycogen breaks down as the muscles enter rigor. Once the animal comes out of rigor, the glycogen has been converted to acidic enzymes, which will tenderize the meat. Something like 80% of this tenderizing happens during this rigor cycle. The “aging process” just addresses the remaining 20%, which is why it’s less noticeable.

But wait, there’s more!

Glycogen gets used up by a living animal a number of ways: Bursts of physical activity, stress, starvation, rutting, lack of sleep... basically any physical or mental exertion. Fat gets converted into glycogen to replace it, but the process takes time.

So hunter “A” is hunting in the middle of the Rut, and has hounds chasing a buck for an hour, then he shoots it, but poorly and spends another hour tracking it and bumping it several times before it dies. That deer has zero glycogen left in it’s muscles. It’s burned it all up, and it’s running on fat reserves alone. The meat from that deer is going to be tough, no two ways about it. It will have almost none of the enzymes needed to tenderize the meat.

Hunter “B” is hunting opening morning, when a well rested buck rises from his bed, and walks into his cross hairs. Bang. Flop. This deer still has a huge amount of glycogen left in his muscles, and not only will the meat tenderize in that first day of rigor, but it’ll continue tenderizing as it hangs, as cuts are stored in the fridge, and even in the freezer, albeit slower.


So when folks say “aging doesn’t matter” there’s a lot more to it than just yes/no based on the species. Great lengths are taken to keep domestic animals calm up until the moment of slaughter for exactly this reason. But if for some reason a beef cow had been stressed out and used up his glycogen stores, then the aging process wouldn’t yield the desired results for that beef either.

As hunters, we can control a number of factors to keep the last short while of a deer’s life stress free, but not all of the factors. You may keep pressure low, and make a perfect kill shot, but if an hour earlier that deer was playing frogger in eight lanes of traffic, then it’s still going to be chewy.

Essentially, it’s a question of “what do we have to lose? If temperatures allow it, aging can only improve the tenderness of the meat. But in all cases, at least wait for the rigor process. Don’t go slice those tenderloins and back straps out while it’s still warm.

Anyway, give the podcast a listen. Super informative.
 
Hanging "skinned" or hanging with the "hide on" would be a better question.

Our deer get skinned immediately and usually get butchered at the end of the week.

Leaving the skin on is a mistake, it takes the meat longer to cool out, you get hair everywhere, it is harder to skin a cold deer, and the skin is the first thing to deteriorate which will make your meat smell and taste very strong.

Skinning immediately takes about 2 minutes, no hair, all the wound channel gets cut away and we have nice mild venison.

You are welcome to do as you please of course.....
 
I cannot understand the idea of hanging wild game. It makes no sense.
The 28 day hang in beef is 1, mostly a marketing thing and 2, the enzymes that help break down the meat for tenderness only take about 10-12 days. Anything past that is essentially a controlled rot, in which you continue to lose moisture and quality.
Part of the reason butchers can hang beef for so long without losing too much meat is because of the fat cover on the carcass. As it dries the fat on the outside dries first, leaving the meat still acceptable and then the butcher just trims the fat and everything is good.

When it comes to game meat, the enzymes still do their job because the enzymes that do the breaking down are in the blood still left in the carcass. This is the same for beef. But the biggest difference is that game generally does not have the fat cover to protect the meat from drying out and being lost to trimming off on the butcher block.
I cut wild game during the season for hunters. It seems to be a thing for them that they bring it to me several days or even weeks after they gave shot it. Claiming the “aging time”. For what ever reason, it’s alway moose hunters. Never elk or deer hunters who do this. Of course when I get it it is drier than a popcorn fart and I end up having to trim the entire outer surface again because passing the dried crusty portion through the grinder would leave little tough pieces in the ground.
I tell everyone of my guys, “the sooner you can get it to me the better”. Yes, the carcass needs about 12 hours to come out if rigor, but after that it it truly makes no difference if it’s hung or cut immediately. The only thing you are accomplishing by hanging is losing your meat to retrimming.
This is why some guys take in a large carcass, and then only get a bucket of meat back. They hanged it for so long, then they take it to the butcher, and by the time the butcher has worked his way to those pre hung carcasses it’s so dry theirs nothing left to salvage. And the hunter wonders why he gets barely anything back.
 
I cannot understand the idea of hanging wild game. It makes no sense.
The 28 day hang in beef is 1, mostly a marketing thing and 2, the enzymes that help break down the meat for tenderness only take about 10-12 days. Anything past that is essentially a controlled rot, in which you continue to lose moisture and quality.
Part of the reason butchers can hang beef for so long without losing too much meat is because of the fat cover on the carcass. As it dries the fat on the outside dries first, leaving the meat still acceptable and then the butcher just trims the fat and everything is good.

When it comes to game meat, the enzymes still do their job because the enzymes that do the breaking down are in the blood still left in the carcass. This is the same for beef. But the biggest difference is that game generally does not have the fat cover to protect the meat from drying out and being lost to trimming off on the butcher block.
I cut wild game during the season for hunters. It seems to be a thing for them that they bring it to me several days or even weeks after they gave shot it. Claiming the “aging time”. For what ever reason, it’s alway moose hunters. Never elk or deer hunters who do this. Of course when I get it it is drier than a popcorn fart and I end up having to trim the entire outer surface again because passing the dried crusty portion through the grinder would leave little tough pieces in the ground.
I tell everyone of my guys, “the sooner you can get it to me the better”. Yes, the carcass needs about 12 hours to come out if rigor, but after that it it truly makes no difference if it’s hung or cut immediately. The only thing you are accomplishing by hanging is losing your meat to retrimming.
This is why some guys take in a large carcass, and then only get a bucket of meat back. They hanged it for so long, then they take it to the butcher, and by the time the butcher has worked his way to those pre hung carcasses it’s so dry theirs nothing left to salvage. And the hunter wonders why he gets barely anything back.

I intended on stating my opinion and experience, but "thebutcher" pretty much explained it. In beef, aging has merit, tenderness and flavor. In game, the meat is not marbled, it is lean. Hanging any longer than a day is a waste of time. And if you hang it long enough, it will start to slime-up.

I know a hunter that only packs out the meat, debones immediately after harvesting, it works. I still prefer to pack out the carcass, but I no longer hang. Like was said, a big deer becomes a small pail of meat if you do. Often, processing the next day isn't possible, I'd say you have a 3 day window, depending on the temperature.

Today is the day we process my sons deer, his first. It took a few years for him to harvest his first, he went with friends this year, left dad at home, I do believe I was the jinx.

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Head shots provide the most tender meat in my experience....correct handling, proper and immediate gutting and cooling.....I'm sure they would with any game animal.
The only reason any venison has ever hung for more that a day is due to my schedule, not for tenderizing..
 
As Bigbubba said getting it skinned and cooled is the most important step. If we get a moose in the first days of the hunt and have a second tag how long the first one hangs depends on the weather. If it stays cool we can stay but if it is warm then we break camp and head home. Butchering happens the day after we get home irregardless of weather.
 
Hanging "skinned" or hanging with the "hide on" would be a better question.

Our deer get skinned immediately and usually get butchered at the end of the week.

Leaving the skin on is a mistake, it takes the meat longer to cool out, you get hair everywhere, it is harder to skin a cold deer, and the skin is the first thing to deteriorate which will make your meat smell and taste very strong.

Skinning immediately takes about 2 minutes, no hair, all the wound channel gets cut away and we have nice mild venison.

You are welcome to do as you please of course.....

2 minutes holy f***, I take about 15 after it’s hanging from forklift. I wanna know how you do that.
 
I try to take mine apart the day of harvest. I dont have a cool place to hang. And where I'm at if left for more than 12-24 hours at this time of year it will be a solid block. And wife is not impressed when you wrestle an entire frozen critter into the house to thaw. But i also mostly grind mine for burger sausages etc. So that makes them all tender. Only usually take the inside tenders and backstraps out to cook whole as roasts or steaks. I had heard the wild game enzyme thing years ago. Dont know if its true or not. I know i took a moose in once it hung for a week. Didnt see any difference with tenderness of the roasts with fresh deboned.

Very much my experience - that "solid block" part, and from your location, likely I was hunting similar area (Zone 46 in those days). Deer were field dressed when shot - into box of half ton - home by dark - legs often frozen solid - more "whittling" than "skinning" to get started - but steam often rising off the "hams" as skin removed. Whole carcass frozen solid next morning - hanging in unheated garage or shed. Meat cutting occurred when could do it, and after getting carcass thawed out enough to cut - so some deer might have been shot on Monday and been frozen all week and some on Friday that may not yet have been solidly frozen - and cutting and grinding meat on Saturday and Sunday. Did stay at a "camp" one time in North Eastern Saskatchewan - had an all out abattoir and cooler - could hang about 30 head of moose and elk at 4 degrees C. Old meat cutter would hang big older ones as long as he could - until outside fat felt "sticky" to touch - younger ones (elk and moose) got hung much less time - sometimes only 3 or 4 days. None of those were ever frozen until cut and wrapped, but then into the "industrial type" "flash freezer". I do not recall seeing any deer hanging in the cooler - pretty sure they got cut up as soon as they were skinned in the abattoir area.

Most of my experience was about "git 'er dun" with what we had, even though we knew a book somewhere said there was a different "proper" way to do it... We would "fillet" out the back straps from neck to hip - wrap and freeze in about 8" lengths. Would be for BBQ - cut into about 3/4" thick, marinade, BBQ. Some years would take a few roasts out of the rear "hams" - some years not. Tenderloins removed - usually a first deer meat meal - do not recall freezing them too often. All the rest was trimmed carefully to remove all deer fat and "silver skin" - then ground. We used most of our deer meat as ground meat - not patties, but in chili's, baked beans, cabbage rolls, etc.
 
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2 minutes holy f***, I take about 15 after it’s hanging from forklift. I wanna know how you do that.

Stayed at a farmer/rancher guy's place in Southern Sask - hunting Mule Deer from his farmyard - he suggested NOT to field dress the deer in the field - to bring back to his barn as soon as possible - he had a couple horse stalls set up - overhead lariats with pulleys - back in the pick-up with the deer in back - he would case skin the deer as it was being hoisted by the lariats. Quite certain no more than 2 or 3 minutes, if that - much more pulling and peeling, instead of "skinning". Wheelbarrow into area, split brisket, then cut the belly and guts fell into wheelbarrow - that got wheeled out and dumped in pig pen. Obvious to us that this was not his first "rodeo"...
 
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