I am interested in buying either a Winchester model 70 or Remington model 700 in .308. I have read that there are a lot of quality issues, both with function and with quality of steel on present day rifles... so my question is, do I have to buy a rifle from the 1970's to get a good quality one in either of these 2 rifles mentioned? I don't mind paying a bit more for a specific model of these 2 if the quality is equal to one from back in the day...
Do you have to buy an older rifle to get good quality??
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Simple. You buy an FN manufactured Winchester Model 70. They are by far the highest quality model 70 ever produced.
Hands down the best gun you can buy under $1000.
The new Model 70's are some of the best they ever made, including the pre 64's. I have toted M-70's around since the early seventies, the current ones are by far the best of the lot. Presently have 3 of the newer M-70's, high quality, no issue's in functionality or accuracy.
As for the Rem 700's, I here Remington has had quality control issue's in recent years, but I have never owned one, or had alot of experience with them so I will let someone else comment on the M-700's.
As for the Rem 700's, I here Remington has had quality control issue's in recent years, but I have never owned one, or had alot of experience with them so I will let someone else comment on the M-700's.
hometownhero
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The new m70's are superb. Got mine or 750 new. By far the best gun I have tried out. Remington, browning, tika, savage are all really tinny feeling. The m70 and cz's anf ruger m77I have looked at all feel like they are made from steel not some cheap tin alloy.
The Model70 has been "the rifleman's rifle" for years. It's miles better now. That should tell you something.....
BigUglyMan
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Here's my FN Model 70.
Take a good look at that rifle and tell me it's not as perfect as you can buy for under $1000.
If only they'd left the trigger the same I'd have no quibbles.
The trigger is as perfect as any factory rifle I've handled.
ZERO creep. ZERO uptake. ZERO over pull and adjustable to under 3lbs... It's the perfect hunting trigger.
Show me you own one, or lose all credibility.
Originally Posted by BigUglyMan
If only they'd left the trigger the same I'd have no quibbles.
The trigger is as perfect as any factory rifle I've handled.
ZERO creep. ZERO uptake. ZERO over pull and adjustable to under 3lbs... It's the perfect hunting trigger.
Show me you own one, or lose all credibility.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the new trigger enclosed? I do beleive that the issue people have with it has nothing to do with its creep, over travel or pull but the potential for failure or reliability in a long term hard use rifle?
If I'm off base here,my apologies
Fuzzy
If only they'd left the trigger the same I'd have no quibbles.
The trigger is as perfect as any factory rifle I've handled.
ZERO creep. ZERO uptake. ZERO over pull and adjustable to under 3lbs... It's the perfect hunting trigger.
Show me you own one, or lose all credibility.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the new trigger enclosed? I do beleive that the issue people have with it has nothing to do with its creep, over travel or pull but the potential for failure or reliability in a long term hard use rifle?
If I'm off base here,my apologies
Fuzzy
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Don't limit yourself to only two choices, there are many other manufactures who have made quality rifles that are under $1,000.00. I'm not only talking about yester-year but present rifles as well. A good start would be Mannlicher Schoenauer, Krico, Model 21 Brno, Ruger #1, Tikka.
Mount Sweetness
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You can get a used Sako for under $1000. They show up on the EE regularly for between $800 and $1100. TradeEx has a bunch right now as well, $750 to $1095.
http://www.tradeexcanada.com/produits/95?page=10
http://www.tradeexcanada.com/produits/95?page=10
You're correct, but what American company doesn't make a fully enclosed trigger nowadays? Part of the lawyerized world we live in.
I have to give the new model 70 credit though, most good factory rifles of present have good little creep and good pull weight, but the model 70 is the best corrected trigger out of the box for overtravel, better than Sako even overtravel wise.
gunrunner8
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All true. I am a Ruger 77 fan b/c nothing ever goes wrong with them. Perfect do it all rifle. Did I mention that they are reliable? Latest Win mod 70 and Brno's are as good but hard to get them in LH.
Every now and again a Schultz $ Larsen shows up.
Most are over the $1000 mark, but sure tough to beat this quality
of a firearm.
Old Brno's are a class act as well.
You would never catch me spending over $500 for a Savage rifle regardless of
what the heck it is.
My pennies..........
Most are over the $1000 mark, but sure tough to beat this quality
of a firearm.
Old Brno's are a class act as well.
You would never catch me spending over $500 for a Savage rifle regardless of
what the heck it is.
My pennies..........
