Do you require holster qualification for 3-gun?

It would seem that by default every club I know of requires people to have some kind of training in order to use a holster.

Personally I think that as long as the four universal rules of firearm safety are observed it shouldn't matter wether your gun is in a holster or on a table.

I think anyone can be shown how to safely holster/unholster in 6 min.
 
No holster cert. needed here.

667 said:
Personally I think that as long as the four universal rules of firearm safety are observed it shouldn't matter wether your gun is in a holster or on a table.

I think anyone can be shown how to safely holster/unholster in 6 min.

What he said. It's not rocket science.
 
No holster cert. needed here.

What he said. It's not rocket science.

Regarding shooting yourself in the leg... Barring mechanical failure of the gun and/or holster anyone who's done it has certainly broken one or more of the 4 rules.
That said... I've seen it happen and it sure looked like it hurt like a sonogofa#####.
 
Some, are way too lackadaisical re-holstering a Loaded Firearm, I see this at a lot of matches,

...and they do this dispite being "qualified".

I suppose a tutorial might help some people, but... even with training people will FU. It's our nature :D
The only self inflicted wound I witnessed happened with an experienced "trained" ipsc shooter... But in being so he shoots a lot and therefore holsters/draws more than the average dood... This would (I think) increase the odds of anything happening.
 
I can never understand why people aren't more cautious and aware of the holstering part (especially with a loaded gun).

To me, this should be the slowest more careful part of the entire match, since ideally, it would be the only time a loaded gun isn't pointed in a safe direction.
 
ideally, it would be the only time a loaded gun isn't pointed in a safe direction.
It can easily be done while still pointing in a safe direction. Push your hip out (like for target shooting with a rifle) and the gun will never point at a body part, just the ground - and that's safe.

Having said that, not many do it that way.
 
It can easily be done while still pointing in a safe direction. Push your hip out (like for target shooting with a rifle) and the gun will never point at a body part, just the ground - and that's safe.

Having said that, not many do it that way.

Probably not safe indoors....at least I wouldn't want to be around if a bullet is striking concrete at a close range.
 
Probably not safe indoors....at least I wouldn't want to be around if a bullet is striking concrete at a close range.
Well, there's "ouch, that bit of concrete / jacket splatter nicked me but my eyes are OK because of the glasses" and there's "bam... femoral artery gone, must make last words count". The first one is not ideal but clearly not lethal or disabling, and easily arranged by not sweeping oneself or others. Safety is not a binary - yes / no - it's a continuum.
 
But being Black badge trained is not for only drawing and holstering a gun...it's also and more so about all the movement and shooting associated with such ipsc/idpa, etc... types of disciplines....eg...movement, going prone, getting back up, transitioning left to right, etc.... and doing so while doing it safe, not braking 90 or pointing gun in safe direction while reloading, and moving, trigger finger outside the trigger gaurd when not shooting and moving...specially not to put finger inside gaurd to soon while drawing...etc....
so, to who above said they don't care about holster qualification to have shooters at his matches, I'd think twice .... yes there's always someone who's trained and still a bit unsafe but overall... that training heps large...I'm sure we all appreciate training and education....
also, it does depend on who did the training...as I've said in some other thread... there's shooters who've had terrible handgun saftey course, yet passed cause same instructor passed them.... and there's alot of these shooters out there...and getting one of them with out BB training would be even worse than a well saftey trained without BB course...
 
I think anyone can be shown how to safely holster/unholster in 6 min.

True, but its the practice, practice, practice that is hard to get at some ranges for people.


Some, are way too lackadaisical re-holstering a Loaded Firearm, I see this at a lot of matches, and it frightens me as an RO....I could give a rats ass if someone shoots themselves!

But every IPSC match requires a Black Badge so I can't see how this happens with all the uniformed training. I have wanted to shoot an IPSC match but because I am only IDPA, I can't. I wanted to try it before I spent all the money to take the course. Still might take it though as 90% or more is shooting, can always improve and learn new techniques.

...and they do this dispite being "qualified".

It would seem so.

Who said they were "qualified"?

Well... I'm guilty of assuming you were speaking from the view of an RO at IPSC matches... Where at least in Canada shooters have all taken the BB course.

Don't feel bad, that is very safe assumption.
 
True, but its the practice, practice, practice that is hard to get at some ranges for people.
No need for a range. Dry practice, like dry fire, does wonders and doesn't require that you drive to and from somewhere.

Of course, most people don't practice in any meaningful way, using the matches as practice time, leading to the issues we're discussing.
 
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