Does a 300 Weatherby have an advantage?
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todbartell said:I guess I win by default
You got to be kidding me, I've seen you drink.
If I came out of retirement for this one bout only, I'd drink circles around you still. The only thing that would stop the intake would be the drunk tank!
Back on topic...
Why is bringing up performance on bears any different than bringing up deer? Both require two separate lines of thinking when comparing the 300's. I thought it was worth throwing into the debate.
So, whats the debate again?
I don't see any advantage with the 300 WBY that is not trivial. Simple as that. (and I won't dare bring any of that up )
a guy could shoot 50 animals with a 300 Win Mag or WSM, and 50 with a 300 Wby, all types of animals, from deer to moose to elk to bear, and look at the results, and I dont think there would be an instance where the Win Mag/WSM was at a disadvantage in the field
simple as that
simple as that
This question must be a joke....
EVERYBODy knows that any weatherby shoots straighter,flatter,faster, and is more powerful than a non-weatherby....kills game faster,farther away, not to mention that the racks are bigger and the meat tastes better if shot with a weatherby...
Russ...
EVERYBODy knows that any weatherby shoots straighter,flatter,faster, and is more powerful than a non-weatherby....kills game faster,farther away, not to mention that the racks are bigger and the meat tastes better if shot with a weatherby...
Russ...
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prosper ,
like I tell my 2 year old. It's not your #####.
It's your HAMMER man, your HAMMER, gawd get it right, your mother desn't know everything.
like I tell my 2 year old. It's not your #####.
It's your HAMMER man, your HAMMER, gawd get it right, your mother desn't know everything.
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If one has a small advantage over another, it doesn't necessarily mean that the other is at a disadvantage...if that makes any sense...
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Well the 300 Win is a disadvatage in it's own because there are other 30 cals that burn less paowder and have less recoil.
So what did we settle with this thread? A short carbine 308 is a better griz gun than the 300 Weatherby? I'd take my friend's M700 300 WBY over that any day
So what did we settle with this thread? A short carbine 308 is a better griz gun than the 300 Weatherby? I'd take my friend's M700 300 WBY over that any day
true, the 300 Win Mag has several disadvantages to the WSM, which I included in the poll in the same lump as the WM.
a WSM (or SAUM) will reach 2950-3000 fps with 180 gr. bullets in a 24" tube. a 300 Win Mag will hit 3000-3100 fps, and a 300 Wby will top out with 3150 fps or so with a 24" tube. talk about point of diminishing returns. Short mags burn 65-70 grs. powder, Win Mag burns 70-80 grs., and the Weatherby - 80-85 grains powder
burning 30% more powder for 16 more yards of point blank range (296 vs 310) and 4" less drop @ 500 yards seems pointless to me, when the 'lesser' cartridge, packs 1500 ft-lbs of energy out to 600 yards, over double the distance of what most shooters can deliver under field conditions with any sort of repeatability.
Weatherby gained its fame with old school hype. Velocity, Energy, Velocity! No longer neccesary are the heaviest bullets in a caliber to ensure penetration, and still have long range capability. A 168 TSX @ 3250 fps out of a 300 Win Mag, will out penetrate a 200 gr Partition @ 3050 fps, and shoot flatter, recoil less, and drift less in the wind.
I suppose so far in this thread, its been revealed (no new news) that the 300 Weatherby has a pointless edge under actual field conditions, with regards to no advantage in killing power and ability to place a shot at long range.
a WSM (or SAUM) will reach 2950-3000 fps with 180 gr. bullets in a 24" tube. a 300 Win Mag will hit 3000-3100 fps, and a 300 Wby will top out with 3150 fps or so with a 24" tube. talk about point of diminishing returns. Short mags burn 65-70 grs. powder, Win Mag burns 70-80 grs., and the Weatherby - 80-85 grains powder
burning 30% more powder for 16 more yards of point blank range (296 vs 310) and 4" less drop @ 500 yards seems pointless to me, when the 'lesser' cartridge, packs 1500 ft-lbs of energy out to 600 yards, over double the distance of what most shooters can deliver under field conditions with any sort of repeatability.
Weatherby gained its fame with old school hype. Velocity, Energy, Velocity!
No longer neccesary are the heaviest bullets in a caliber to ensure penetration, and still have long range capability. A 168 TSX @ 3250 fps out of a 300 Win Mag, will out penetrate a 200 gr Partition @ 3050 fps, and shoot flatter, recoil less, and drift less in the wind. I suppose so far in this thread, its been revealed (no new news) that the 300 Weatherby has a pointless edge under actual field conditions, with regards to no advantage in killing power and ability to place a shot at long range.
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- South Cariboo, B.C.
Word!
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Whats stopping you?
I own both, enjoy shooting them and have killed game with both. I do believe that the WBY has an advantage in the field. Just the numbers alone create confidence, velocity...energy, its almost like the rifle shoots by itself .
All bulls**t aside they are very close in all aspects except price and pride of ownership. Yes they are expensive to shoot but you own a Weatherby and Weatherby owners know what I'm talking about...Its a Weatherby thing!
My .338 Lapua still kicks the s**t out of both of them .
. All bulls**t aside they are very close in all aspects except price and pride of ownership. Yes they are expensive to shoot but you own a Weatherby and Weatherby owners know what I'm talking about...Its a Weatherby thing!
My .338 Lapua still kicks the s**t out of both of them
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