Does any one use Metal Cabinet to storage firearm?

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Avan920

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after review some youtubes, the firearm safe are east to break!! except the high end.
does any one here using Metal Cabinet for storage firearm?
my plan is have 2 metal cabinet, big one to storage firearm and a small one for ammo.
like following:
https://www.uline.ca/BL_3872/Storage-Cabinets?keywords=cabinet

and it that ok ?
 
It's considered a safe, and is perfectly legal. Mine is inside of a room, specifically for the storage of firearms... so I could do with either, I just choose to use both.

True they are very easy to gain access into, but they are legal. If you are worried about secure, buy secure, if you are worried about legal, buy legal... if you are worried about both... buy a safe and skip the cabinet or put it in a secure room.
 
Agree , my plan is put the cabinet into a storage room with extra lock . Since I check some cheap model up to 800cad safe still easy to break it with 10 mins with tools . And I will be collecting quite a bit firearm need room for it
 
Avan920 said:
after review some youtubes, the firearm safe are east to break!! except the high end.
does any one here using Metal Cabinet for storage firearm?
my plan is have 2 metal cabinet, big one to storage firearm and a small one for ammo.
like following:
https://www.uline.ca/BL_3872/Storage-Cabinets?keywords=cabinet

and it that ok ?
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Sure,it's OK. Any metal cabinet with a lock is fine. People that think they need a "bank vault" to store their guns are out to lunch. Even with R class,they can be stored inside a metal cabinet as long as they're trigger locked,also. Ammo may be stored inside the locked container. The Criminal Code and Firearms Act secure storage regulations were NEVER intended to prevent theft from B&E. The intention is to prevent unauthorized access by people who happen to be emotionally upset during "the heat of the moment" which usually passes within a few minutes or curious family members who don't know any better.
 
Trimmer 905 said:
Sure,it's OK. Any metal cabinet with a lock is fine. People that think they need a "bank vault" to store their guns are out to lunch. Even with R class,they can be stored inside a metal cabinet as long as they're trigger locked,also. Ammo may be stored inside the locked container. The Criminal Code and Firearms Act secure storage regulations were NEVER intended to prevent theft from B&E. The intention is to prevent unauthorized access by people who happen to be emotionally upset during "the heat of the moment" which usually passes within a few minutes or curious family members who don't know any better.
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I don't even think that restricted's need trigger locks in a cheap stack on tin can... they are sold as a gun safe, the courts see them as a gun safe, and restricted's don't need trigger locks on in a gun safe. Stack on tin cans are NOT vaults by any means, but they are a legal gun safe. Having trigger locks on isn't a bad idea though, shows you're trying to go further than the law requires. I don't lock my own handguns in my "safe", I lock the safe and I lock the room it's in.
 
Safe storage laws are to keep unauthorized people from using them. This is mostly for children and untrained adults to prevent accidents. Those people usually won't damage the container to get at them. Thieves with commonly available modern tools can make short work of most home safes.
 
I have an RPAL but currently only have non restricted bolt action rifles I keep them all locked in a stack-on cabinet with trigger locks. What's ten bucks for another layer of security? My personal feeling is that if a thief breaks into your home during the day with the right tools and has the time with no one home they will be able to get into both security cabinets and high end safes. My stack on is in a small room, and bolted to the floor for added deterrence.

I consider my greatest security against theft to be my 75 pound dog :)
 
Trimmer 905 said:
Sure,it's OK. Any metal cabinet with a lock is fine. People that think they need a "bank vault" to store their guns are out to lunch. Even with R class,they can be stored inside a metal cabinet as long as they're trigger locked,also. Ammo may be stored inside the locked container. The Criminal Code and Firearms Act secure storage regulations were NEVER intended to prevent theft from B&E. The intention is to prevent unauthorized access by people who happen to be emotionally upset during "the heat of the moment" which usually passes within a few minutes or curious family members who don't know any better.
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No trigger lock needed. The only time this has gone to court the judge decided a safe is "a locking container made of metal" or something like that. By the definition he used a snap on cabinet is absolutely a safe.
 
Juster - thanks for posting the link to the Barnes judgement.
The Barnes case was in the Ontario Court of Justice.
What sort of precedent does this establish? Ontario only? Federal?
 
I'm no lawyer, but I'm guessing federal. Although the case went before Ontario Provincial Court, the judgement would be on a federal law (safe storage I think falls under the firearms act) which I'm guessing would set federal precedent. I could be wrong though.
 
tiriaq said:
Juster - thanks for posting the link to the Barnes judgement.
The Barnes case was in the Ontario Court of Justice.
What sort of precedent does this establish? Ontario only? Federal?
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If I'm not mistaken it's not binding precedence on anything, however it would more than likely be considered in any future judgement on the topic. At least that is what was explained to me by someone who sounded like they knew wtf they were talking about.
 
Growing up, a gun cabinet was generally made of wood and had glass doors. They'd have one of those cheap brass locks that was useless for anyone but curious children. The metal stack-on cabinets meet the definition for a safe regardless of how it's advertised.
 
tiriaq said:
Juster - thanks for posting the link to the Barnes judgement.
The Barnes case was in the Ontario Court of Justice.
What sort of precedent does this establish? Ontario only? Federal?
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I'm not a lawyer, but as far as I know that would be the closest thing to a legal definition of a fireaems safe in Canada as a whole. But no guarantees.
 
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