Does anyone prototype?
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don't tell me you really expect people to spend time on new ideas with the possibility of future business ventures and profits and then post pics of them on the internet.
crazy insane
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Id post mine if it was finished but as of now I need to find a welder to borrow, as for posting patent ready projects you need to patent then post. I assume your talking about either the RG G or the D&E 22lr Gatling gun plans... dont worry I have the RG G plans and have already made ten of the bolt carriers
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well from what I got from the engineer that built the originals and the 5 or so guys that have built them in Canada was that they were semi auto and depending on how long the barrels are redesigned to, it is not a restricted or prohibited rifle. The only thing that the designer said was to not get any ideas about putting an electric motor on the side, and since that was never my intention that wont be a problem. When I was inquiring with the engineer and others, since it is a cam driven action and reloaded by a giant crank on the side that requires you to manually drive one of the bolts all the way around to pick up a single round off the stick or drum it was considered a single shot rifle coupled together with a bunch of other single shot rifles. Since I do not feel like making this project and then go to register it and find out that I can not use or keep it I will be pretty pissed off, so I will call the RCMP to make sure. This was never a question I ever really bothered to ask mostly because there are to my count 5 Canadian projects that I have seen. But I guess just because somebody made it doesn't make it legal I guess... that's why I will try and get some people from legalese to help me out as well as calling the RCMP
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Don't waist your time
I am was a gunsmith in Canada and tried for 2 years to get the Gov. to change there minds on one I was building. The barrels are OK the frame was OK .butttttt they Say the crank Assem. is Prohib. No if's ands or butttt's it's Prohib.
I was going to build it and travel around to gun club 's letting people pay to play when I retired last year. And No I do not still have the parts that were built.
I am was a gunsmith in Canada and tried for 2 years to get the Gov. to change there minds on one I was building. The barrels are OK the frame was OK .butttttt they Say the crank Assem. is Prohib. No if's ands or butttt's it's Prohib.
I was going to build it and travel around to gun club 's letting people pay to play when I retired last year. And No I do not still have the parts that were built.
Yep, cam assemblies are specifically prohibited.
This came with the original Bill C-68 because at that time there were clip on cam assemblies for "actuating" triggers with a crank.
The ONLY way you could get one passed is if your "crank" only goes back and forth firing one shot every time you pull it back. If your "crank" goes round in a circle => prohib
Regulation to the Criminal Code SOR/98-462
Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited or Restricted
a S.C. 1995, c. 39, s. 139
INTERPRETATION
1. In these Regulations, “semi-automatic”, in respect of a firearm, means a firearm that is equipped with a mechanism that, following the discharge of a cartridge, automatically operates to complete any part of the reloading cycle necessary to prepare for the discharge of the next cartridge.
PART 4
PROHIBITED DEVICES
Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 9
1. Any electrical or mechanical device that is designed or adapted to operate the trigger mechanism of a semi-automatic firearm for the purpose of causing the firearm to discharge cartridges in rapid succession.
You can "wish" and "interpret" the above all you want, but what WILL happen is you end up arguing your case in front of a JUDGE. Just make sure you have lots of time and money.
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"OF A SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM"
A true Gatling is not a semi-auto; it is human-powered, one hundred percent of the way. It uses neither gas nor recoil from the firing cartridge to operate its action.
BATF in the States has a number of rulings on precisely this.
Get it in front of a judge who can read and write, rather than just "following orders" like Roland Frieseler, and you have a chance to overturn the gun-banners on this one.
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A true Gatling is not a semi-auto; it is human-powered, one hundred percent of the way. It uses neither gas nor recoil from the firing cartridge to operate its action.
BATF in the States has a number of rulings on precisely this.
Get it in front of a judge who can read and write, rather than just "following orders" like Roland Frieseler, and you have a chance to overturn the gun-banners on this one.
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