Does RCMP run daily/weekly criminal background checks????
- Thread starter Challenger2010
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Jon, Not to call you on anything but.... The city police may access more often but do they update more often. With the RCMP it is one agency from top to bottom. Now I am not saying things always work the way they should but there is less of a issue. I know for a fact that CPIC records and certain police records differ on myself. The only thing that shows on CPIC & the other databases(there is more then one & they are all useless) is from a small town RCMP detachment.
As for US border guards:
1) They ask if you have been arrested not convicted.
2) They have greater access then a guy doing a traffic stop.
3) When you talk to border guards it is best to know what they see.
4) Get a random cop to run your name if you are unsure. A good way to do this is ask a random cop when you are drunk where the nearest holding cells are & check to see if the warrant is cleared up. They'll do it.
Of course they differ. CPIC isn't tied to the individual forces file system. PROS is our database. CPIC is a national database that caters to no one and is at arms length from any outside file system. It would implode if it had to retain all the data say Wayburn let alone the RCMP retained day to day.
1. I know that and have avoided arresting several times so not to screw up someone's life. But you can't purge or remove an arrest from your past. Even pardons aren't recognized by any country but our own. USA don't care .
2. Of course. They have US records as well. But any agency can run a PIP check and get back info from others.
3. I guess if you're worried about something showing up. Not a concern personally as you can imagine.
4. Terrible advice. First I don't drink
but they are only going to tell you if you have a warrant or not. No details and they are under no obligation, and aren't allowed to tell you details on any records or investigations really. And you run the risk of being arrested for being drunk in public. So don't do that.Just to add. Easier this way since I'm on an ipad. The criminal records aren't updated by the police. We merely send in the prints with a disposition sheet and or use the livescan and the cpic people do it. We have no records management authority. Basically we put current court conditions, stolen property, lost passports, etc on it. Then it's just access nothing else. For example all I can do that can change anything whatsoever is remove a warrant that my own detachment added.
It's the same for city forces, they just like to use it for communication as well.
It's the same for city forces, they just like to use it for communication as well.
justinb1981
Regular
- Location
- Hamilton, Ontario
It's not exactly a daily background check. If you have any dealings with the police they will enter your name into CPIC. Your provincial CFO is then notified. They can take no action, investigate further or suspend your PAL immidiately
Trimmer 905
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I believe this was a simple case of update failure on someone's part AFTER the charges were dropped. The bureaucratic boondoggle to have it "updated" was epic.....and expensive.
You aren't understanding how cpic works. "Charges" aren't put on cpic, only convictions. And then only convictions with fingerprints. If the police dropped charges there is no way for those to be on cpic. It's a national records system, not a local force file system. Cpic didn't even exist until 1972 so how a dropped charge from 1966 could make its way on isn't possible.
Trimmer 905
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It's possible I may have the wrong date or,mabe,they did pay a ticket. Now,I'm not sure,so,I'll find out before I post any more.
I fully agree with everything you have said in the last couple of points. I also know what you have said to be true as a matter of law and of policy. My comments on 1-4 follow.
1) a large percentage of arrests as defined by the SCC would never be recorded.
2)nothing to add to this one.
3)Well I know it doesn't look great but there are officers with a entry in one or 2 of the databases. I'll take your word for it any how. I like my statements to match the database the individual that I am talking to.
4) Yes not the best advise. However it's like getting a room number from the front desk of a hotel. It doesn't really matter what either the law prohibits or policy prevents. You lay questions the right way and observe the screen you can find out a bit. People are usually the weak point in any system.
As for CPIC the police department must submit the prints and the results. The RCMP have a policy of submitting all records. The various city(etc) police have different policies & timelines and different rates of compliance with said policies. I know with a fair degree of certainty that one of my convictions will never become a entry into CPIC.
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BigUglyMan
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- New Scotland
Your instructor, like many instructors, has heard something that he can parrot. Unfortunately, he's wrong. As wrong as the instructor that said that if you put a detachable mag in an SKS that it automatically goes full auto and will mag dump automatically, even if you take your finger off the trigger.
Unauthorized CPIC access is a violation of policy in every police force in Canada. If you use CPIC for an unauthorized purpose (ie not connected to an investigation or an approved administrative task) you will be subject to a corrective action. How "corrective" will that consequence be? Depends on the nature of the improper use and if you have a history of bad behaviour. I doubt that running unauthorized CPIC checks is worth losing a job that pays around $90K per year. Maybe for some people it is. But I would hazard they are in the minority.
"Continuous Eligibility" is a program where people are checked daily if they have been involved in a call for service that resulted in a Firearms Interest Person, of "FIP", hit being generated. Assaults, threats, drug offences, ### crimes, these are some of the offences that generate a FIP hit. Those people are screened against the CFP system and, if there is a match, that triggers follow up by the Firearms Officer which includes a file review and determination as to whether or not the person should remain licensed. Personally, I'm fine with the Firearms Officer checking into wife beaters, drug dealers and perverts. Maybe those people shouldn't have access to firearms. But Joe Blow doesn't get screened every day because nothing happened.
You mean that you're fine with the firearms officer checking into suspected wife beaters, drug dealers and perverts.
I'm all for people losing access to firearms if they're convicted of a violent crime. I'm not OK with people losing their firearms based on nothing more than suspicion and accusation.
