Does Russian Bakelite mags contain fiber glass or asbesto

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Hi folks recently got some pinned Bakelite mags and I filed the feeding lips (with mask and everything) so they can feed T81.
However recently I noticed some internet comments saying the bakelite mags contain asbestos........since bakelite contain asbestos part of production process. And this make the mags rather toxic from exposed parts........like wear and tear areas on mags will release asbestos into the air in your house and stuff........

But then gain the gun jesus and other sources were saying the Russian "Bakelite" are not actual bakelite but AG-4S plastic and they do not contain asbestos but rather fiber glass.

Well, fiber glass is a lot less toxic than asbestos as the latter cause major lung problem in long run.

My questions is

1. Do you gusy know wether Russian Bakelite mags contain asbestos? Maybe some credible souce to help my health anxiety? :)
2. What's the best way to seal the filed mag lip? I mean these filed areas need some sort of protective coating but I am not sure what to put there.

Thanks guys and taking your time reading htis and commenting!
 
The tiny amount of asbestos dust that you'll be exposed to, isn't worth the worry. If it was I wouldn't had lived as long as I have, so far.
 
Bakelite was never used to make magazines. It's a terrible choice for pretty much anything. It was only ever popular because it was essentially the first plastic. Here is an excerpt about the polymer used.

"often mistakenly identified as being made of Bakelite (a phenolic resin), but were actually fabricated from two-parts of AG-S4 molding compound (a glass-reinforced phenol-formaldehyde binder impregnated composite), assembled using an epoxy resin adhesive."

Asbestos is also a chronic exposure hazard. It's treated like it's insanely dangerous but it really isn't unless you work with it a lot and don't bother wearing PPE.
 
trebor2880 said:
The tiny amount of asbestos dust that you'll be exposed to, isn't worth the worry. If it was I wouldn't had lived as long as I have, so far.
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I am curious on wether these russian mags contain asbestos or not since these suppose to be AG-4S platistic? So we are not actually exposed to asbestos in the first place?
 
As far as I know “bakelite” mags are just an early plastic with little to no asbestos , pistol grips however do contain asbestos ,
Asbestos isn’t a danger in a solid state it’s only in airborne situations you are in any danger
 
B said:
Asbestos is also a chronic exposure hazard. It's treated like it's insanely dangerous but it really isn't unless you work with it a lot and don't bother wearing PPE.
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That really depends on the specific type of asbestos, I've heard some are mild irritants where as others are basically a mesothelioma diagnosis from looking at a picture of it.
 
5HoursNorth said:
As far as I know “bakelite” mags are just an early plastic with little to no asbestos , pistol grips however do contain asbestos ,
Asbestos isn’t a danger in a solid state it’s only in airborne situations you are in any danger
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Yes but since I am modifying the feeding lip, there is a chance of these particles went airborne....... Hence I am curious to see if these mags contain asbestos or not and what to do to seal the modified areas.....
 
B said:
"often mistakenly identified as being made of Bakelite ...but were actually fabricated from two-parts of AG-S4 molding compound (a glass-reinforced phenol-formaldehyde...
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So to be clear, they aren't Bakelite, they are phenol formaldehyde?

Newsflash: Bakelite is just a tradename for the original brand of phenol formaldehyde. They are the same thing.

To the OP, this is not a simple question. Phenolic resins don't have to contain asbestos, but virtually all commercial polymers do have a filler or fibre reinforcement of some kind. Unless someone has researched the issue diligently I don't know how anyone could swear that asbestos wasn't the filler of choice the day your mags were made. Others are probably correct when they say that the little bit of exposure you are likely to get from sanding your mags won't ever harm you.
 
Yeah Really? Asbestos is/was a problem with long term exposure. I have ground down Model A brake shoes and am still here. If you are really worried, wear a mask and wet things down while you are working. A lot of miners survived years of working with asbestos.
I played with mercury bare handed as a kid, for weeks on and off and you can see I s t il comuni c8 fffine.
 
B said:
Bakelite was never used to make magazines. It's a terrible choice for pretty much anything. It was only ever popular because it was essentially the first plastic. Here is an excerpt about the polymer used.

"often mistakenly identified as being made of Bakelite (a phenolic resin), but were actually fabricated from two-parts of AG-S4 molding compound (a glass-reinforced phenol-formaldehyde binder impregnated composite), assembled using an epoxy resin adhesive."

Asbestos is also a chronic exposure hazard. It's treated like it's insanely dangerous but it really isn't unless you work with it a lot and don't bother wearing PPE.
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