Does the magazine exemption still apply to stock Lee Enfields?

No it does not, it mean NO.

Things are bad enough without people failing to do research and being pessimistic about the future
 
No it does not, it mean NO.

Things are bad enough without people failing to do research and being pessimistic about the future

It is actually an interesting question. In current regulation the Lee Enfield 10 round magazine is a named exception as there was an obscure semi-auto trials version of the rifle made and necer put into production. No mention of this in C21 or G4 as I can see
 
OK, one step at a time - magazine restrictions apply to Semi-Auto centre fire rifles and shotguns with detachable magazines only. The bolt and single shot rifles are accused of being "capable of" firing a cartridge with more than 10Kj of muzzle energy - legally speaking, this would be using the definition of 'capable of' that came from the SCC in Hasselwander. So, no bolt action magazine bans (yet) just banning rifles where the action is "capable of" surviving a proof load producing 10Kj. The LE isn't either of those.
 
It is actually an interesting question. In current regulation the Lee Enfield 10 round magazine is a named exception as there was an obscure semi-auto trials version of the rifle made and necer put into production. No mention of this in C21 or G4 as I can see

yes they were put into limited production as a stopgap measure, most conversions were made using older long lees

but a few hundred made in early WW2 translates to you might find one in a museum today.
 
yes they were put into limited production as a stopgap measure, most conversions were made using older long lees

but a few hundred made in early WW2 translates to you might find one in a museum today.

Thank you for the clarification. None the less highlights the illogical nature of Canadian Firearm Legislation over the years.

Another previously named exception the M1 Garand did not fare so well this time.
 
OK, one step at a time - magazine restrictions apply to Semi-Auto centre fire rifles and shotguns with detachable magazines only. The bolt and single shot rifles are accused of being "capable of" firing a cartridge with more than 10Kj of muzzle energy - legally speaking, this would be using the definition of 'capable of' that came from the SCC in Hasselwander. So, no bolt action magazine bans (yet) just banning rifles where the action is "capable of" surviving a proof load producing 10Kj. The LE isn't either of those.

Except named rifles like the M1 Garand which does not have a removable magazine.
 
It is actually an interesting question. In current regulation the Lee Enfield 10 round magazine is a named exception as there was an obscure semi-auto trials version of the rifle made and necer put into production. No mention of this in C21 or G4 as I can see

Its not a semi auto rifle, so shouldn't fall under the C21 BS regardless.
 
Its not a semi auto rifle, so shouldn't fall under the C21 BS regardless.

Sure...it will be interesting to see to see what further regulations flow from the final law. Remember the mandate letter to the Min of Public safety said

Requiring the permanent alteration of long-gun magazines so that they can never hold more than five rounds;
Banning the sale or transfer of magazines capable of holding more than the legal number of bullets;

There was no mention of this just being semi-auto in the letter...not sure they are done yet
 
It is actually an interesting question. In current regulation the Lee Enfield 10 round magazine is a named exception as there was an obscure semi-auto trials version of the rifle made and necer put into production. No mention of this in C21 or G4 as I can see

Okay, that does add a wrinkle.

The Hawlton conversion doesn't require any mods to the receiver from what I can see.

https://youtu.be/U682yOpNafg

The Charlton conversion has lots of mods to the reciever.

https://youtu.be/glcuSPMAAHs

Anyways, weapon of war with semi-auto and automatic fire variants. But probably this would take down the entire house of cards of nearly every prescriptive firearm requirement in Canada if you brought it before a judge. Likely put the judge in the asylum too...mind-breaker.
 
Okay, that does add a wrinkle.

The Hawlton conversion doesn't require any mods to the receiver from what I can see.

https://youtu.be/U682yOpNafg

The Charlton conversion has lots of mods to the reciever.

https://youtu.be/glcuSPMAAHs

Anyways, weapon of war with semi-auto and automatic fire variants. But probably this would take down the entire house of cards of nearly every prescriptive firearm requirement in Canada if you brought it before a judge. Likely put the judge in the asylum too...mind-breaker.

I am pretty clear on what is on the list or not...spent way to much time going over it. My main point I guess is this time it feels different. In previous rounds of legislation there was at least an attempt to receive and entertain input. The AR-15 and M1 Garand as 2 examples. The AR in no large part through input from the DCRA and the important part it played in National Level Service Rifle Competitions and the M1 being excepted from the 5 round semi ban. We now seem to have reached a point of no return.
 
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