Does this qualify for precision?

[sniper58]

Out to the range this morning to play with my toys.
I took my Remington VTR along to get some more rounds through it. It has now fired 96 rounds in total. I was having problems with horizontal stringing last fall. Over the winter I decided to remove the bedding pad at the front of the stock.
I had some rounds that shot OK from my Savage VTR, and decided that I'd try them from the VTR. They were neck-sized for the Savage, but chambered easily in the Remington.

Here's what I ended up with. I fired 3 rounds and it was looking OK. 5 rounds........still OK. What the heck!, I'll shoot a 10 round group. If you include the first shot (clean and cold), it measures 1.165"

I shot a 200 yard group with the same ammo, but I need to work on my "wind doping" The 200 yd group opened to 1.25" vertical and 2.2" horizontal.

 

[ultimate_monkey]

its deffinatly a start to precission! it sounds like you load. so i would start to do some load development for the rifle if you really want to see how accurate it is, 10 shots into a 1.1" group with rounds not developed for the rifle is damn good! spend a bit of time with your loads and you should be able to bring that group down to 3/4" or less.

welcome to the world of precission! sooner then you realize you will be spending as much time prepping cases as you do working, and paying more attention to how much poweder goes into each case then you do to your kids! haha!

 

[sniper58]

Thanks, I was pretty impressed.

comparing the Savage and the Remington, I was surprised to find that the chamber throats are exactly the same length in both rifles. The load that was used was set at .010 off the lands. All the brass was neck turned, flash holes de-burred, and weighed to within .3 grains. Brass was once fired stuff that I bought before Ebay quit allowing it to be sold. Paid $35.00 for 1000 pieces. I weigh every powder charge already. I might have to put some of my "Super Loads" together with Benchmark and V-Max bullets to see how they do out of the Rem. I can usually get less than 1/2" from the Savage.

By the way, the loads went over the chronograph at 3127 fps avg.

I already spend as much time in the "cave" as I can, and................what kids?

I have a Boyds thumbhole Varminter laminated stock that I might glass bed to this rifle to see if it does OK. The factory Remington stock, flimsy as it is, seems to be just fine though. torqued to 65 in. lbs front screw, 45 rear

 

[ultimate_monkey]

"super loads" in one rifle might be ass loads in another.. every rifle / barrel combo will have whats called a "node" this is the frequinsy the barrel resonates the most consistantly and the bullet leaves the muzzle in the exact same spot every time... (this is the lameans explinations cuz im lazy) each barrel will most likely have a high node and a low node and not all barrels will like certain bullet / combos..

in my old 223 a 52gn amax over 24.7gn varg would give me a 5 shot group of .5MOA at 100, but a 60gn vmax over 25.1gn varg would net me a 10 shot group of .3MOA but a 55gn amax would shoot like ass with any powder combo i could come up with it just never worked!

so there is deffinatly a real science to the precission side of things and a alot of patiance required and fine tuneing to get the most from you rifle

i would really like to sugest that you check out mystic Precision's web site. there is alot of good reading avail. on there for laod development and the likes


and most off all practice! a .223 is a great starting round to get into precision! they can be incredibaly accurate, cheap to shoot and with the right set up net some impressive results at 1000yds

happy shooting!