Dollar at $.80

galamb said:
For months there has been a number on this site complaining how vendors have been "blending their prices" as the dollar has been falling through the floor.

All the crying at how "unfair it is" that they are charging "higher prices" on stuff they "bought at par" - take them out and hang them in the public square.

Now the dollar moves a little in the other direction.

Now many of the same that "don't believe in blending prices when the buck is falling" suddenly believe that "blending prices should be written into the constitution".

You are NOT going to see any kind of immediate effect to the price of the buck moving up or down - it just don't work like that with anything "firearms". All the 2016 orders were placed back in December. The importer/wholesalers have been getting stock as it has been shipped from the US - and whatever "they paid" when it crossed the border will be the prevailing rate for the 1) the rest of the year or 2) the price until the next bulk order comes across the border.

Yes, be aware of where the buck is - but that will tell you more about where the price will be "in 3 to 6 months on stock that regularly turns-over", if stuff was "bought up front" you are stuck with that price "if you want it" - still a free market and you don't have to buy anything at all....


***free speech*** According to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal, "Free Speech" is an "American Concept" that is not protected or guaranteed by the Charter in Canada - so you don't have any :)
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I have to agree. I have many hobbies where the bulk of my purchases are of products that are produced outside of Canada. Usually prices fluctuate up and down according to the dollar quite honestly. There is however the delay for venders to turn over there old stock. Consumers however are very poor at recognizing when prices are dropping or have dropped.

I work in the Natural gas industry. Consumers in our province pay aprox 26c/cuft for gas. Back in the early 2000s we were paying 44c/cuft, but if you tell someone that the price of Natural gas is relatively low they look at you like you are crazy. If the dollar goes up to 97c prices of guns and ammo will go down again, but I would be surprised if any one will be posting any "22lr ammo is too cheap" threads.

To put it into perspective. I have shotgun shells and 22lr ammo that I bought 20 years ago sitting in my safe. These were bought on sale at $20/500 and $10/25 respectively. Even after this latest jump in prices I have still been able to buy 22lr for $33/500 and comparable shotgun shells for $13/25. Comparatively the wage for a journeyman gas fitter (which I am) has gone from $16.75/hr to $34/hr in that same time period.

Don't get me wrong. I'm a cheap bugger and hate paying higher prices too, but I'm also realistic.
 
bobdbldr said:
I did not say anything that wasn't true, and wasn't gouging the good dealers on this site, I buy from those who did not raise their prices overnight and if you are one of them good on ya! But there are some that did raise them and I will boycott those few who did! No need to get defensive, most members here know who did or didn't and buy accordingly!
I buy most of mine from Canam as they put on good sales. And offer shipping basically included in the price! They let us know that prices were going up which gave us a chance to stock up. Even then, their higher prices turned out to be less that anticipated! Awesome group to deal with, as are most of the dealers on CGN!
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I think you just described how free enterprise works.
 
Yukoner89 said:
I just realized that I exaggerated a bit because I don't pay attention to the repeats. It's nice to see that other people on CGN watch it regularly too :)
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It turns into background noise, but has good info on financial news and relates to the political arena and how it will affect our pocketbook! Regular news is getting as partisan as the U.S. So I try to stay away from it. The news stations are taped so much and basically work 8 hours a day it seems. When a 747 crashed here at the airport years ago, ( my wife and I are both in aviation industry) she got the phone call minutes after it happened and I turned on the news,,, it took and hour and a half to hit the news and that was the weather channel, not for another hour did the news stations wake up and start reporting the BS that usually comes out first!! The business channel have less of that as they are taken to task should they report falsehoods!
 
Seems to me, I remember when the dollar was tanking, I was reading posts from dealers saying "Better buy it now, because come our next shipment, prices will be up 30 percent to reflect the change in the dollar." Everyone's reply was "This really sucks, but it makes sense." Now the dollar goes up, and they expect to save money overnight? Lets be realistic here. Same as before, we will see a change in price when the dealers get through their current stock.
 
galamb said:
For months there has been a number on this site complaining how vendors have been "blending their prices" as the dollar has been falling through the floor.

All the crying at how "unfair it is" that they are charging "higher prices" on stuff they "bought at par" - take them out and hang them in the public square.

Now the dollar moves a little in the other direction.

Now many of the same that "don't believe in blending prices when the buck is falling" suddenly believe that "blending prices should be written into the constitution".

You are NOT going to see any kind of immediate effect to the price of the buck moving up or down - it just don't work like that with anything "firearms". All the 2016 orders were placed back in December. The importer/wholesalers have been getting stock as it has been shipped from the US - and whatever "they paid" when it crossed the border will be the prevailing rate for the 1) the rest of the year or 2) the price until the next bulk order comes across the border.

Yes, be aware of where the buck is - but that will tell you more about where the price will be "in 3 to 6 months on stock that regularly turns-over", if stuff was "bought up front" you are stuck with that price "if you want it" - still a free market and you don't have to buy anything at all....


***free speech*** According to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal, "Free Speech" is an "American Concept" that is not protected or guaranteed by the Charter in Canada - so you don't have any :)
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Well, I didn't see your post earlier, and honestly haven't heard of blending prices,, not sure if that's a good idea or not, possibly if they bought a bunch of stock when prices were high, either way, as some have said later here it will sort itself out in the free market, which we do have,, sort of,, who ever has the good prices gets the business. I feel bad for the sponsors who bought a lot of stock at higher prices and can see them blending their stock to compete! What I was originally getting at was the FEW that jacked their prices overnight basically and actually one I know of that raised it at least 3 times in the run of 3 days. Obviously a very small number of our group of sponsors! Same problem with our local CTC stores, one has 1500 rnds Russian for $289.. Old stock and never raised but another got new stock in and it will be $340. He got a skid of the stuff but I don't think it will move to fast! The thing is, he said he bought the skid to get a better price! Same with their SKS they claim they paid almost as much as they will be putting them on sale for and bought 150 to get the best price!!
Anyway free speech maybe not, but freedom to buy where you get the best deal, still in effect!
 
conrad01 said:
well its only now that some stores are starting to get a supply of .22 that was bought and paid for 6 months ago when we were at .70c of less.
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Yep glad I got enough .22 to do me a year or so, and luckily somehow Canam has 80% of the ammo I need and haven't raised their prices much at all and when they have a sale we are good to go! I hope this new non corrosive x39 comes in at a reasonable price, I will stock up!
 
buckbrush said:
A lot of dealers increased their prices on old lower priced stock as soon as new stock prices were advertised by competitors.
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I noticed that too .... I'm hoping as dealers restock with the higher dollar, competition will have those other dealers lower prices to keep sales. It's a free market after all. I also noticed that the price of used guns seemed to go up when the dollar fell also; it was still cheaper than new (although used prices always seem high to me compared to brand new, but alas that's another story).

I see it in my industry too .... Dollar goes down and prices go up because everything comes from somewhere else, but competition forces the industry to look for local suppliers or other cost savings to stay competitive and find a way to keep prices low. With the dollar rising, there should be some relief for importers now.
 
g-manz35 said:
To put it into perspective. I have shotgun shells and 22lr ammo that I bought 20 years ago sitting in my safe. These were bought on sale at $20/500 and $10/25 respectively. Even after this latest jump in prices I have still been able to buy 22lr for $33/500 and comparable shotgun shells for $13/25. Comparatively the wage for a journeyman gas fitter (which I am) has gone from $16.75/hr to $34/hr in that same time period.
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Where are you getting .22 for $33/500 I feel lucky to find it for $45.

I'm a tool and die maker 10 years ago I was making $28/hr working straight days, today I'm making $29 and have to drive an hour each way and work rotating shifts days,afternoon, and nights just to have a job.
 
shootnprep said:
Where are you getting .22 for $33/500 I feel lucky to find it for $45.

I'm a tool and die maker 10 years ago I was making $28/hr working straight days, today I'm making $29 and have to drive an hour each way and work rotating shifts days,afternoon, and nights just to have a job.
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Lots of us are feeling the pinch, my industry is looking at a wage freeze for many years to come and others are looking at rollbacks. The cheapest .22 I've found was at Walmart (somewhere in the mid $30-35 range per brick), but I had to go to four stores and there were only a few boxes and no choice of brand or type, but whatever was there. However, it appears to be a demand problem more than the dollar that is causing the price of .22 to rise.
 
You can find deals . I've bought 3000 rounds privately and one store purchase but it was on sale .1/3 cci mini mag and cci tactical , 1/3 federal automatch and champion and 1/3 Winchester (m22 and bulk 333) and my average is like 7.5- 8 cents per round average. And that not crappy ammo.
I refuse to pay normal ammo pricing so I look for the best sales and privately.
I don't agree with the price gauging so I don't buy overpriced ammo
 
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