Dollar parity and Black Rifles
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Don't like the prices? Don't buy. Stop whining - nobody cares about your feelings and this isn't kindergarten.
What amazes me is why some of the firearms import experts on this site don't set up and run their own firearms retail business. Nothing to it, right? Easy to whine but harder to do, i guess.
Until you actually operate a successful firearms business in Canada you should stop complaining about other people who actually had the balls, guts, and determination to do it. If they need to charge the prices they do to stay in business, that's what they'll do. If you can do better, then do it. Now that would be worth starting a thread, unlike this sorry little tantrum.
What amazes me is why some of the firearms import experts on this site don't set up and run their own firearms retail business. Nothing to it, right? Easy to whine but harder to do, i guess.
Until you actually operate a successful firearms business in Canada you should stop complaining about other people who actually had the balls, guts, and determination to do it. If they need to charge the prices they do to stay in business, that's what they'll do. If you can do better, then do it. Now that would be worth starting a thread, unlike this sorry little tantrum.
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Yeah I can't believe when gun owners attack Canadian Firearm dealers. I mean honestly, how damn difficult must it be to keep in buisness for these guys.
They have one of the biggest, heaping piles of bureaucratic bulls**t ever concieved to wade through just to get them here and you complain that its too expensive. We're lucky we can still buy new firearms.
If the U.N. asswipes get their way, we may not anymore.
So quit complaining and be thankful you can even still buy guns in this totalitarian butthole we like to call a country.
They have one of the biggest, heaping piles of bureaucratic bulls**t ever concieved to wade through just to get them here and you complain that its too expensive. We're lucky we can still buy new firearms.
If the U.N. asswipes get their way, we may not anymore.
So quit complaining and be thankful you can even still buy guns in this totalitarian butthole we like to call a country.
I imagine dealers will lower their prices in a slow downward trend. Unless something dramatic happens the Canadian dollar is expected at par or over for the next two years. As these dealers work through their supply of product purchased before parity and in turn order more with our stronger dollar we will (hopefully) see this reflected in the prices. Lets face it, the reality of the Canadian firearms business is one that relies on repeat business, I am sure most of the dealers are aware of this enough to not alienate their customers in order to maintain a stable buyer/seller rapport.
What does the commodity price of steel have to do with it?? Say a gun retails in the US for $1500 right now its $1500 regardless of the commodity price of steel.
Our Canadian dollar will buy that $1500us gun slightly cheaper regardless.
The one big thing everyone in Canada forgets is what a Canadian dealer pays is not US retail price.
And no dealer pays retail, like come on.........
There is nothing wrong with making money but these hurt feelings of dealers is a joke, I dont give a #### how much you sell items for but to try to make it out like your barely making a profit is a joke......
Our Canadian dollar will buy that $1500us gun slightly cheaper regardless.
The one big thing everyone in Canada forgets is what a Canadian dealer pays is not US retail price.
And no dealer pays retail, like come on.........
There is nothing wrong with making money but these hurt feelings of dealers is a joke, I dont give a #### how much you sell items for but to try to make it out like your barely making a profit is a joke......
Ar180shooter
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I definitely applaud anyone that drops prices for any reason, especially due to a strengthening dollar. Maybe I'm just not paying close enough attention (with my schedule that's a definite possibility!) but if prices are dropping that sounds like a great opportunity to advertise. Glad to hear things are getting better price-wise!
A shooter's ability has nothing to do with the gun market's prices. I agree it sucks that he goes around trying other people's weapon's when they are hoping to try his and he declines. He sounds like a douche, but it has nothing to do with the market.
Not to derail this thread, but why not coach him a bit. I've helped amateurs half their groups in 20 minutes. I bet he'd let you shoot his gun then. 'Just saying.
Not to derail this thread, but why not coach him a bit. I've helped amateurs half their groups in 20 minutes. I bet he'd let you shoot his gun then. 'Just saying.
Ar180shooter
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severus said:
Amen to that!
Too many of the people here think it's easy (and cheap) to import a firearm. I looked into it and decided it wasn't worth it.
Even if the profit margin on firearms was 20%, selling $5,000,000 in product would only net you $1,000,000 after paying for the rifles. Then there is taxes and overhead (warehouse, store, staff, export permits, advertising, etc.). To move that much inventory in a year, you need much more than 1 or 2 staff members and a 1000 square feet of store space (basically, you need to pay for a lot of sh!t). In short, there's much more to running a business than simply importing the rifles and selling them.
With respect to black guns, other than a couple of 20" and stripped lower Bushmasters...we are sold out. We are waiting patiently for any AR 15's to hit the country from any source. Our pricing will depend on cost. Our mark up in almost every case on a new gun is 25%. Just for the record, the following products have gone down in price in the last couple of months:
Leica,
Zeiss,
Nikon,
primers,
Hornady,
Barnes,
Mossberg (some models),
with more to come. When we reduced our prices on new goods we also reduced prices on existing inventory that in some case was significant. If we pay less...we charge less it's as simple as that. In the case of goods we buy in US $ we have to buy the $ at the right time. Last week we bought some US $ anticipating that the CND $ was going to increase more but of course it now has dropped back to 98 cents and we are now kicking ourselves for not buying more. We (dealers) all try to maximize our profits when possible but don't want to be seen as gouging at any time. With the recent interest in the Ruger SR-22, there is now (still) a shortage of product in Canada due to the huge demand. We heard of some dealers asking (and getting) up to $640 for these guns. We chose to charge $550 as this is what we calculated our required profit at. All of our SR-22's were essentially sold as they came in and this would have been a good time to make more money but in the long run we felt this would be a mistake. We want to make a good living in this business and want to be here for a long time. Phil.
Leica,
Zeiss,
Nikon,
primers,
Hornady,
Barnes,
Mossberg (some models),
with more to come. When we reduced our prices on new goods we also reduced prices on existing inventory that in some case was significant. If we pay less...we charge less it's as simple as that. In the case of goods we buy in US $ we have to buy the $ at the right time. Last week we bought some US $ anticipating that the CND $ was going to increase more but of course it now has dropped back to 98 cents and we are now kicking ourselves for not buying more. We (dealers) all try to maximize our profits when possible but don't want to be seen as gouging at any time. With the recent interest in the Ruger SR-22, there is now (still) a shortage of product in Canada due to the huge demand. We heard of some dealers asking (and getting) up to $640 for these guns. We chose to charge $550 as this is what we calculated our required profit at. All of our SR-22's were essentially sold as they came in and this would have been a good time to make more money but in the long run we felt this would be a mistake. We want to make a good living in this business and want to be here for a long time. Phil.
