dominion arms backpacker short review

Skoalbandit,
Your diagnosis of the problem may be correct and your suggested cure seems reasonable. If these guys did not know how to build a proper latch, I wonder why they did not just copy H and R or New England and hold the fore stock by a machine screw?

You should stalk up on heavy springs and offer or contract to do the inevitable warranty that will be needed:D
 
Covey Ridge said:
Skoalbandit,
Your diagnosis of the problem may be correct and your suggested cure seems reasonable. If these guys did not know how to build a proper latch, I wonder why they did not just copy H and R or New England and hold the fore stock by a machine screw?

You should stalk up on heavy springs and offer or contract to do the inevitable warranty that will be needed:D
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Good points about the design for sure. It sure wouldn't take much for any of us to convert our own to a machine screw forend as well.

And regarding the warranty work, I'm too scared to break a fingernail!:p
 
skoalbandit said:
Good points about the design for sure. It sure wouldn't take much for any of us to convert our own to a machine screw forend as well.

And regarding the warranty work, I'm too scared to break a fingernail!:p
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It appears that the chinese factory workers that assembled these guns may also have been afraid of the same thing;)
 
Covey Ridge said:
Gosh I hope I am one of the two guys you are complaining about! If not, maybe I have not tried enough:D
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I don't have a dog in this fight so really don't care but what is disturbing is the apparent joy you are feeling over others misfortunes.

Simple to fix the forend problem and still a great deal on the gun so who cares. Fix the forend and move on. I'd still buy one. Epoxy it on if it really bothers you.
 
juanvaldez,
I am not feeling any joy over the misfortunes of others. My complaint is against those to blame for the misfortune of others. That includes the importers and the manufacturers and the cheerleading supporters of this fall apart product.
 
Skoalbandit,
In this picture there is a bolt that goes through the upper piece and threads into the lower it is covered by a small piece of black foam that I used as a spacer to simulate the space taken up by the wooden forestock....
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On my gun the top piece when engaged in front of the lug and against the receiver is tight and it can not move forward or back under recoil.....the lower piece is attached to the upper via the bolt and the inletting of the foreend and also will not move under recoil.
If there was a bit of play in the top piece due to poor fitting, and if the lug engagement was shallow this could be a problem...
Mine seems pretty good and after reading these posts this morning I decided to hit the range this afternoon....

I only fired 7 2 3/4" winchester slugs and about 25 shells of birdshot and........
No Problems with my forestock!!:dancingbanana:
I guess I got lucky! :)

I slipped on a simms limbsaver and found the slugs quite nice with the extra cush...at 15 yards the birdshot was spread about 24" and was centered about 6 1/2" high of my point of aim.

The first slug I shot was 13 " high at 25 yards and I then adjusted my aim by lowering the bead as low as I could in the notch on the receiver....and shot one about 9 1/2 " high and 3 were 6 1/2" high....
I think a pedestal to raise the bead a bit would help for sure.
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Maybe the stock needed to be "shot in" and seats all the way? I'm really curious how these will shoot reduced recoil buckshot through the mod choke. I've had some very tight patterns in the past with that combination.

Good idea on the pedastal for the front bead. Silver solder should hold it nicely.
 
Most likely the guns with foreend problems just need some fine tuning...I noticed after I took mine apart for photos and then reassembled it that it was a bit loose side to side up front and so I placed a small piece of foam about 3/16" thick between the foreend and the barrel and now she's nice and snug...:)
 
maltextract said:
you can see the powder residue on the forestock in Can-down's pic. Ha ha, I'm looking forward to receiving mine.
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I saw that in the picture too but I checked it out and I think it's just the color of the stain on the end grain but it might have cleaned itself off in the bag on the way home.......I'll have to pay more attention next time!
 
Win/64 said:
skoalbandit said:
Maybe the stock needed to be "shot in" and seats all the way?
That's a new one on me. Maybe it has a "shrinkage" problem.
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Hey I'm just spit-ballin' here. Wood shrinking wouldn't effect a forend with metal mating parts would it? I'm still planning on ordering one of these to tinker with. If it ends up getting wrecked who cares? I spend more on a haircut than the price of this shottie.
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after reading the review and getting my Outlaw yesterday I ordered a backpacker as well. I was pleasantly surprised at how well the Outlaw came together and the trigger pulls. So if the backpacker does as well it would be well worth it. I'm intigued by the possibility of using a Tamer stock, or setting up in-stock shell storage similar to the M6 scout
 
hutchster said:
you aren't from brandon, are you?

the guy next to me said the exact same thing:)
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hutchster, that was me, I have to thank you for making my day. watching you pick those pieces out of two feet of snow was absolutely hilarious. not once but twice, that was awesome, I am sitting here laughing out loud just thinking about it. That's why I told you to and stand outside the lean-to so the parts didn't fly over and scratch my new Cooper.

no worries though, nice wood, you could probably make a nice set of coasters out of the stock, and the barrel is just the right length for a nice tomatoe stake. I for one would sure not shoot a piece of junk like that , in which all the pieces fly apart in different directions, LOL
 
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taffman said:
hutchster, that was me, I have to thank you for making my day. watching you pick those pieces out of two feet of snow was absolutely hilarious. not once but twice, that was awesome, I am sitting here laughing out loud just thinking about it. That's why I told you to and stand outside the lean-to so the parts didn't fly over and scratch my new Cooper.

no worries though, nice wood, you could probably make a nice set of coasters out of the stock, and the barrel is just the right length for a nice tomatoe stake. I for one would sure not shoot a piece of junk like that , in which all the pieces fly apart in different directions, LOL

I haven't had that much fun at the range since the guy next to me fired off his muzzleloader with the ram-rod in the barrel, cut himself for a handful of stitches and screamed like a girl, I thought for sure that's the way you were going to end up, that gun is not safe.
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I'm glad Hutchster was able to "make your day" bud!
Ya it's too bad he didn't get hurt like the other guy....but hey you can't win them all eh!!
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taffman said:
I haven't had that much fun at the range since the guy next to me fired off his muzzleloader with the ram-rod in the barrel, cut himself for a handful of stitches and screamed like a girl, ...
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Just to let you know that post makes you sound like a f**ktard ... :rolleyes:
 
taffman said:
hutchster, that was me, I have to thank you for making my day. watching you pick those pieces out of two feet of snow was absolutely hilarious. not once but twice, that was awesome, I am sitting here laughing out loud just thinking about it. That's why I told you to and stand outside the lean-to so the parts didn't fly over and scratch my new Cooper.

no worries though, nice wood, you could probably make a nice set of coasters out of the stock, and the barrel is just the right length for a nice tomatoe stake. I for one would sure not shoot a piece of junk like that , in which all the pieces fly apart in different directions, LOL

I haven't had that much fun at the range since the guy next to me fired off his muzzleloader with the ram-rod in the barrel, cut himself for a handful of stitches and screamed like a girl, I thought for sure that's the way you were going to end up, that gun is not safe.
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I really enjoyed your post till I read the last paragraph. There is nothing funny about someone getting hurt with a firearm.
Not all of us can afford Coopers But we can afford to save up a little and not buy a gun that we have to put back together everytime we fire it. I hope no one gets injured by these "things". Please be carefull with them.
 
we were both laughing about the foreend thing when it happened:)

the fact that i shot it 4 more times just goes to show how stupid i can be at times:p

other than the foreend it worked fine and didn't blow up in my face:dancingbanana:

i have received 1 email from chris at canam and his idea was to try and shoot it without holding the foreend:eek:

thats all i need, a good shot to the face from my robustly recoiling shotgun:mad:

buy hey, my nylon 66 was shooting pretty good, so it wasn't a total loss of a day.
 
I had a CanAm email a bit ago saying that they had no similar complaints...then. I suspect things have changed since most of the guns have been shipped out. I don't know what this means for future sales on cheapies...

hutchster said:
i have received 1 email from chris at canam and his idea was to try and shoot it without holding the foreend:eek: thats all i need, a good shot to the face from my robustly recoiling shotgun:mad:
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