dominion arms grizzly vs dlask 870 shorty

grelmar said:
Arrogant elitist much?

For some of us, a scattergun is, at best, a secondary tool. What works, works.

I'll gladly plow over $1G into a .22 bolt action (already have), or a centerfire in a calibre I'm interested in pursuing. But a shotgun has limited use for me, so I'm not interested in punching tons of money into it.

Keep in mind the use case the OP put up - basic bear defense (a DA covers it), and some plinking/blasting (DA covers it).

If you're going to spend lots of time shooting skeet/trap, and you're planning on getting into upland game etc., then by all means, go for the best money can buy. Otherwise, go with something basic and reliable, that won't hurt your wallet.

Remember, this is all supposed to be fun. Sweating the cost of each and every barrel you buy isn't fun.
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"Basic bear defence" is the most important job any gun you own will be asked to perform. I work outdoors in bear country and that is one gun's role I will never skimp on. You slandered the fellow who said if you can't afford a Dlask, you can't afford to shoot, and made a shotgun out to be a peripheral tool. Perhaps you live in Ontario, Quebec, or the East. Perhaps you are an urbanite out west, or live where the wildlife is largely gone. It is different there and I understand that, but for many in the north and west, there is no more important gun than your handy 12 gauge. Finally, supporting the home team over China is never arrogant or elitist, it is common sense, and responsible buying. He had a good point, and the usual crap of people on the walmart bandwagon jumping on a guy for curtly pointing out we should pay attention to where our guns come from came out again. Buy American, buy Canadian, buy German: Any quality, democratic choice. We make better guns anyhow. If you can't afford it this month, save and buy it two months later, you have a better gun in the end anyhow and you supported our very small industry and sport here at home with Dlask.
 
thanks guys I think I will just go with the dlask. All the wingmaster actions I have seen are around 350, and the barrel is 250 then the stock is probably around 100 or so. Midas well support a Canadian company like said above. Better start saving though!
 
Ardent said:
"Basic bear defence" is the most important job any gun you own will be asked to perform. I work outdoors in bear country and that is one gun's role I will never skimp on. You slandered the fellow who said if you can't afford a Dlask, you can't afford to shoot, and made a shotgun out to be a peripheral tool. Perhaps you live in Ontario, Quebec, or the East. Perhaps you are an urbanite out west, or live where the wildlife is largely gone. It is different there and I understand that, but for many in the north and west, there is no more important gun than your handy 12 gauge. Finally, supporting the home team over China is never arrogant or elitist, it is common sense, and responsible buying. He had a good point, and the usual crap of people on the walmart bandwagon jumping on a guy for curtly pointing out we should pay attention to where our guns come from came out again. Buy American, buy Canadian, buy German: Any quality, democratic choice. We make better guns anyhow. If you can't afford it this month, save and buy it two months later, you have a better gun in the end anyhow and you supported our very small industry and sport here at home with Dlask.
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I retract nothing.

"if you can't afford a Dlask, you can't afford to shoot..." is an arrogant, elitist statement. And the kind of attitude that drives people away from the sport. He 100% deserved to get called on it.

"Basic bear defence" does not, in any way, imply ineffective. The DA is a solid, reliable shotgun, both in my own experience, and that of many, many others. That's all I ask for in a shotgun. Is it going to be 100% fail proof, or is there no chance you get a "built on a Monday" gun? Of course not. No firearm is, especially if you don't take the time to do proper maintenance. Is it going to be as refined and smooth as a DLask or Wingmaster? Is it going to have the same fit and finish? Is it going to be as lightweight? Nope, and I even commented to that effect in an earlier post in the thread. Is it going to rack, chamber, and eject reliably, and go "bang" when you pull the trigger? You betcha. Is someone more likely to be effective if they spend the difference in cost on ammo, and actually get some practice in? Is "the gun you have" more effective than "the gun you wished you could afford"?

"Buy American, buy Canadian, buy German: Any quality, democratic choice..." And therein lay the key factor in your decision making. And you know what? I don't have a problem with that. That's a choice we all make when we buy, well, anything. But that's a personal choice, and one that shouldn't be imposed on others.

Enjoy the DLask whitetailwoodsarch.
 
i have a couple of the 8.5 barreled guns and a 12.5 . one is a grizzly one is a dlask and one is an old wingmaster with a choked dlask 12.5 barrel .of the three the wingmaster is the best quality and more versatile because of the choke . it is also the heaviest of the three because of a heavy plug in the mag as well as a weight in the stock .the dlask shorty is second choice for quality .if i wanted a pack gun i would choose the dlask 8.5 simply for the light weight and ease of carrying . it holds four rounds of two and three quarter and i have modified it with a cut down remington forend and a quality recoil pad .as for the grizzly gun it is a somewhat heavy little beast that never fails to fire or eject. it makes a good knockabout gun around the farm .as a side note i did not care for the forend on the dlask gun because it would tear up your hand on recoil and i do not care for the grizzly forend either as the front slaps your hand on recoil
 
whitetailwoodsarcher said:
does the dlask barrel fit the wingmasters without fitting?
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I have had 2 different 12" DA barrels and they both fit on my various used WingMasters with no issues, although I have read that some CGN members have had fitment issues.

whitetailwoodsarcher said:
All the wingmaster actions I have seen are around 350, and the barrel is 250 then the stock is probably around 100 or so.
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If you are patient you should be able to find a complete used WM for $250-$300 with long barrel, sell the long barrel for $80-150 and buy a DA barrel for $149, total cost approximately $350.
 
I bought an 8.5 grizzly, and there was a burr around the inside of the mag tube so big you struggled to get the shells in, but couldn't get them out without taking off the mag tube cap. I had to strip the whole gun down and de burr everything. Once I got it functioning 100% I sold the damn thing, and bought an 8.5 Dlask barrel, had a WM cut down, and built my own 8.5. Even with the magpul stock it came in at less than $500
 
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