Don't bring ammo to your safety course/test!!

I used to teach the CSSA and CRFSC. Part of the drill was to have the second instructor go through the dummy ammo piece by piece, and ask the class at the beginning of the day to remove any personal ammo to thier vehicles prior to the start of class.
 
bsand said:
lol, its pretty obvious if you don't have a license you shouldn't be in possession of ammunition...If you don't have the sense to not bring something that legally you shouldn't have then...
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There is no law against an unlicensed person possessing ammunition. There are laws against transferring ammunition to someone who isn't licensed, but - AFAIK - the unlicensed person can still legally possess ammunition.

Stephy said:
Am I missing a fatal flaw here?
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Have you never taken a non-licensed female guest to the range? On the first visit, didn't she wear some form of urban camouflage?

People who are eager to fit in do unusual things, like wearing camouflage, just to make them feel more involved. I'm not the least bit surprised that some tyro CFSC students might bring whatever the-least-bit-related item that they might have available to them with them to the course.

And ammunition is definitely related.
 
Aren't firearms using in those courses deactivated? The ones used during my class we're either cutaways or modified to prevent shooting.
 
all the ones my class handled were deactivated. but dummy's still chambered and the trigger/hammer assembly worked, but there wasn't a firing pin i guess?
 
Wendell said:
Okay, so we know that the CFSC does not involve any live fire, but how is a prospective student to know that?
He/she is booked to take a "firearms safety course", aren't they? Registering students are informed not to bring ammunition to class, are they? No, I don't think so.
If he/she was not given any information to the contrary - and I'd bet that he/she never was - isn't is reasonable of him/her to assume that some ammunition might be useful?
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Wendell said:
There is no law against an unlicensed person possessing ammunition. There are laws against transferring ammunition to someone who isn't licensed, but - AFAIK - the unlicensed person can still legally possess ammunition.

Have you never taken a non-licensed female guest to the range? On the first visit, didn't she wear some form of urban camouflage?

People who are eager to fit in do unusual things, like wearing camouflage, just to make them feel more involved. I'm not the least bit surprised that some tyro CFSC students might bring whatever the-least-bit-related item that they might have available to them with them to the course.

And ammunition is definitely related.
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You should stick to posting news articles...

:rolleyes:
 
Man some of the customers I get at work with pol's are the biggest idiots. Granted guys fresh outta class come in and still ask if this gun can kill someone or in one instance since he owned a Remington rifle he required Remington ammunition, when asked what calibre his response was Remington. Sometimes the people that assume they have a clue are the most clueless of all.
 
haha49 said:
My friend is blind so I had to answer the test for him.. I didn't have to help him he still got 100 percent the only problem was the photos and then I just grabbed the firearm brought it to him and said here is the one in the photo.. he told me the action type marked it down went to the next question.. he even passed the saftey part by him self I only showed him were the firearms on the table were to speed it up... So a blind person can pass the test..
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Thats awesome and impressive!!!
 
dHb said:
For the second time in 11 years I had someone show up for a test challenge this weekend with a pocket full of ammo. Don't bring ammo to a CFSC or test!
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I begin every course with some house cleaning statements...
"...there is no live ammo in this room, anyone who might have live ammo on their person please hold up their hand..." or something similar...

All my guns are all disabled....

at the end of a course I held in November, I was cleaning up - acts and prove on all my demo hardware - and I found a live 3 in challenger 12g shell stuffed into my pump action shotgun !

since then...

I only use red brass dummy rounds, and I the shotgun hulls I use for demonstration I kept out of circulation and only used for practicals.
 
haha49 said:
My friend is blind so I had to answer the test for him.. I didn't have to help him he still got 100 percent the only problem was the photos and then I just grabbed the firearm brought it to him and said here is the one in the photo.. he told me the action type marked it down went to the next question.. he even passed the saftey part by him self I only showed him were the firearms on the table were to speed it up... So a blind person can pass the test..
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Good for him and oh my god. Really, blind...and wants a gun?
 
Wendell said:
Okay, so we know that the CFSC does not involve any live fire, but how is a prospective student to know that?
He/she is booked to take a "firearms safety course", aren't they? Registering students are informed not to bring ammunition to class, are they? No, I don't think so.
If he/she was not given any information to the contrary - and I'd bet that he/she never was - isn't is reasonable of him/her to assume that some ammunition might be useful?
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I posted this in the Newbie forum for the benefit of those about to take their course or test, NOT for the enlightenment of those who have already made hundreds or thousands of posts...
 
Really need a license for pro-creating to limit any offsprings from these characters. One fellow wanted to know what to do if your spouse is an anti.
 
sewktbk said:
How's his shooting? Does he echo-locate his targets? :rolleyes:
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Yes, that's how many ISU competitors do it, with special small bore rifle sites and headphones that indicate a tone when properly aligned on target.

BTW, you can be "legally blind" and still able to see.

BOT, we always ask people to leave guns and ammo outside when teaching the club level safety course.
 
While it can seem disconcerting to many that people bring live ammo, newbies require patience. There's a lot to learn and I learn more every day, despite being in this hobby/sport for years. I'd explain to them why they shouldn't do it but I never dish out negative reinforcement, I try to keep everything positive.
 
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