Double feed in SKS kills operator

I can see this happening to anyone, even experienced operators. The positive comments on cleaner gene pool and yay for Darwinism is a little harsh.

The more accidents that happen with these firearms the more ammo the antis have against us.

It was a freak accident and I hope that everybody is just a little more cautious at the range, accidents happen.
 
MagnumPeanut said:
I can see this happening to anyone, even experienced operators. The positive comments on cleaner gene pool and yay for Darwinism is a little harsh.

The more accidents that happen with these firearms the more ammo the antis have against us.

It was a freak accident and I hope that everybody is just a little more cautious at the range, accidents happen.
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i agree .... those posts removed .
 
I have had jams and FTF's and the first step is to keep the muzzle down range, and let the gun sit for a few minutes in case you get a delayed fire. Then I pull the mag, open the bolt, and carefully try to pop the cartridge out keep my face away from the chamber at arms length. Once the cartridge falls out I give it a minute before I try to pick it up to make sure the fall onto the table or ground isn't upsetting it, then it goes in the dud can at the range. I think this is the proper and safe procedure?? Please correct me if I am wrong.
 
Gentlemen, I believe a little compassion for the victim is in order. I've thought about the accident and have reconstructed what may have happened to cause this truly unfortunate and tragic incident.

What I believe occurred in this accident prior to the chambered round discharging, is not an extremely rare chain of events. It can happen to any of us.

What it is, is a failure to feed completely. In a semi-automatic action like the SKS, loading fresh cartridge is performed by the bolt carrier/bolt, which on travelling forward while driven by the recoil spring, strips a fresh cartridge from the magazine and pushes it into the chamber, the bolt face/extractor firmly clamped onto the rim of the cartridge head.

Normally the bolt carrier/bolt assembly has sufficient energy to carry out this function successfully as provided by the recoil spring. But a gun is a mechanical device subject to friction, binding or any malfunction which could prevent its parts, i.e. the bolt carrier/bolt from attaining sufficient velocity and energy to accomplish its function.

The cartridge may feed, yes, but due to insufficient bolt velocity, the extractor may not have caught on the cartridge head rim. The bolt will not be in battery and the trigger will not release the firing pin. The operator pulls back the bolt carrier handle, the chambered round will not eject, because the extractor did not engage.

The next round from the magazine is pushed up against the magazine lips, ready to be pushed forward by the bolt. Operator releases the bolt handle, intentionally or accidentally, waiting cartridge is stripped from magazine, which then speeds forward. Its spitzer bullet’s tip strikes the primer of the chambered cartridge, igniting its propellant which drives the bullet downrange.

The cartridge casing head, being totally unsupported, is blown off by approximately 50,000 psi pressure. We know what followed next.

Personally never experienced this with my own SKSs but can see the possibility of a similar chain of events happening, given enough rounds fired.

In case of any FTF, FTE, in any gun, I'll remember to always drop mag before doing anything.
 
Nothing to do with the gun, any semi could do this. Improper care and possibly knowledge or complacency is what led to this. Always clear a FTF never do anything but clear the chamber EVER!!! Pop the mag and see what went wrong even if its just a 22 caliber. Read the article is proves he did not clear the FTF and just racked another shell, its too bad someone died.
 
trying to chamber a round when one is stuck in the chamber is...well,... just plain stupid...could happen to any firearm,it just happened that this one was an SKS....
 
What I really don't like about it is a douchebag lawyer trying to make some money by suing Norinco and the importer. Only in America...
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Lawyer claims he enjoys guns!!! Ambulance chasing hypocrite! It was an accident that stemmed from unfortunate operator (bless his soul) error based on the lawyer's own story, and modifications to the gun's original configuration. A sensible judge should throw the case out.

Why do some people always have to cash in on other people misfortunes?
 
MagnumPeanut said:
I can see this happening to anyone, even experienced operators.
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Point the gun in a safe direction.
Remove the ammunition.
Open the action.
Verify the chamber and feed path.
Examine the bore.

A wet-behind-the-ears n00b with a minutes-old PAL would have survived that malfunction if he or she had followed the PROVE mantra to the letter.

Owning a Norc SKS myself, I was struck by how the CFSC's weapon-clearing process would have prevented that accident from happening; without the mag in the gun, there would have been no second cartridge striking the primer of the chambered round...
 
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