double rifle
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handofzeus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Trout Creekish Ontario.
That would be the Baikal Artemida MP-221 chambered in 45-70, 30-06 and probably others. I've seen them at a few places in S. Ont. Not very popular and usually $899. Try Shooter's Choice in Waterloo if Epps is out.
Don't buy it, had one & not worth it.the variable barrel regulation system does not work.left barrel was shooting 6" high + 8" to the left @ 50 yards .Thats just not acceptable.you could lower the point of aim by underloading power and having left + right barrel loads but that won't fix the side to side issue and lets face it -thats just bullsh*t on a brand new rifle.barrels were also so thin it felt like I was holding a .410 sxs with way to much powder stuffed in it,not a comforting feeling.
I had a couple of these guns, in both .45-70 and .30-06. Sorry, but the barrel adjusment feature absolutely does work, within the limits of its design. The small adjusting wheel, when turned according to directions, definitely moves the POI of the two barrels closer together or further apart on the horizontal plane. If the barrels shoot to different vertical points, that can also be changed by inserting shims between the end of the barrel and the collar that joins the two barrels together. The gun is easily scoped using one-piece air rifle scope mounts, available in various heights and very inexpensive. The open sights work well, but are ugly as sin. It's also easy to install a rear peer sight from XS sights...the one that is designed for the Ruger dovetails fits perfectly, and is especially appropriate on the .45-70 gun. Getting the barrels to group together takes some time and effort, but it can be done. Overall accuracy is very good for a double gun...one of mine would produce composite groups (2 shots from each barrel, 4 shots total) of less than two inches at 50 yards.
They aren't high-grade guns by any means, but they give you the double-rifle experience for about one tenth the price of just about any other available alternative. In fact, one of the ones I had was equipped with really beautiful wood...the others, not so much. If you want a rifle to take out of the box, sight in and use for long-range hunting the next day...forget it. Double rifles simply don't provide that. If you are willing to play with loads, barrel adjustments, sights, etc. then these guns can be a lot of fun and a great value. I will almost certainly pick up another .45-70 when the chance arises.
They aren't high-grade guns by any means, but they give you the double-rifle experience for about one tenth the price of just about any other available alternative. In fact, one of the ones I had was equipped with really beautiful wood...the others, not so much. If you want a rifle to take out of the box, sight in and use for long-range hunting the next day...forget it. Double rifles simply don't provide that. If you are willing to play with loads, barrel adjustments, sights, etc. then these guns can be a lot of fun and a great value. I will almost certainly pick up another .45-70 when the chance arises.
I agree with the above. I love mine. I have a 4570. The regulation works awesome. With factory loads I can group 2 shots from each barrel inside 2" at 75 yards. My handloads are even tighter but I have a slight height variation only in my handloads but it works out perfect a 75 yard zero and a 150 yard zero so I never finished playing as they hit close enough at point blank range where the double really shines. They are a lot of fun. I added a 2.5x20mm scope on mine and its been down a lot of rough roads and pushed a lot of brush. The only issue with mine which is no faault of the gun is I put a neopreme shell holder on the stock and it got wet and after 2 weeks in the bush rubbed the finish off the stock. They are stiff to open and the triggers are a lil heavy but its a fine hunting gun for close range work. I bought mine for bear hunting in very thick bush and walking out of baited areas in low light its much more comforting having a fast pointing balanced big bore in your hands then a scoped bolt action on a sling
The regulation works extremely well. 1 click is about 1cm
The regulation works extremely well. 1 click is about 1cm
vagrantviking
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Southern Alberta
Some more doubles to consider depending on the depth of your pockets. And a shameless plug for one of my favorite site supporters. 
http://www.tradeexcanada.com/produits/68
http://www.tradeexcanada.com/produits/68
Some more doubles to consider depending on the depth of your pockets. And a shameless plug for one of my favorite site supporters.
http://www.tradeexcanada.com/produits/68
Was just about to post that, great store eh. I was looking at the dbls they have a few days ago $ 3000 to $30000. One day man one day
With your 30-06 did you have any problems with primers material flowing into firing holes while using factory loads?
What do you intend to use it for?
y
I put a couple hundred rounds through that gun, but I don't think any of it was factory ammo. I used 200gr bullets almost exclusively, with powder charges well below maximum. My record keeping is pretty much nonexistent. I never experienced any problems with primers deforming in any way. The Baikal is not a gun that inspired me to push the limits of pressure or velocity.
I put a couple hundred rounds through that gun, but I don't think any of it was factory ammo. I used 200gr bullets almost exclusively, with powder charges well below maximum. My record keeping is pretty much nonexistent. I never experienced any problems with primers deforming in any way. The Baikal is not a gun that inspired me to push the limits of pressure or velocity.
