Doubles with a Pump?

I started my clayshooting with a 870 pump... told myself I wouldn't buy an O/U until I shot over 50% in sporting clays - didn't end up buying on till my average score was about 70% - found I do better still with a pump. With an auto, or an O/U I tend to be too quick on my second shot. The pump forces your brain to recalibrate or something - don't be afraid of doubles... a pump only takes a split second anyway -
 
I took a guy from work out clay shooting with my pump. He was into semi auto pistol shooting so it took a while before he consistently remembered to pump. :D
 
Most people say the only disadvantage is not having two different selectable chokes to work with.

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Exhibition shooter Herb Parsons could throw seven clay pigeons in the air at once and hit them all with a Winchester Model 12.
 
Exhibition shooter Herb Parsons could throw seven clay pigeons in the air at once and hit them all with a Winchester Model 12.

I'd like to see a video of him while he's shooting. Does he even take his finger off the trigger or just rack the forend while he aims? Most I've done with my Model 12 is three. It's plugged to three but I don't think I could pull off four.
 
Herb was in the Exhibition Shooting business for Winchester, long before videos were even around. Some of the old originals may have since been transferred to video or DVD.

The original was 16mm film. " Herb Parsons - Showman Shooter "

As to the Model 12/7 clays : No, it wasn't a "hold the trigger back & keep Pumping" ... but separate individual shots - a distinct trigger pull each time.

I'm sure he could have well exceeded 7 ... however, he used a standard Model 12 with
it's factory seven round capacity ... no magazine extensions.

Herb was quite a rifle shot as well ... able to hit hand-thrown quarters, even aspirins out of the air at short range ... and the empty 22 cases he'd just ejected out of a Model 62.
(Shoot, hit the empty case, eject, hit that empty case as it's ejected, etc.etc. )

An accomplished duck hunter and duck caller... Herb grew up not far from Reelfoot Lake, Tennessee.
 
Herb was in the Exhibition Shooting business for Winchester, long before videos were even around. Some of the old originals may have since been transferred to video or DVD.

The original was 16mm film. " Herb Parsons - Showman Shooter "

As to the Model 12/7 clays : No, it wasn't a "hold the trigger back & keep Pumping" ... but separate individual shots - a distinct trigger pull each time.

I'm sure he could have well exceeded 7 ... however, he used a standard Model 12 with
it's factory seven round capacity ... no magazine extensions.

Herb was quite a rifle shot as well ... able to hit hand-thrown quarters, even aspirins out of the air at short range ... and the empty 22 cases he'd just ejected out of a Model 62.
(Shoot, hit the empty case, eject, hit that empty case as it's ejected, etc.etc. )

An accomplished duck hunter and duck caller... Herb grew up not far from Reelfoot Lake, Tennessee.

So what you're basically saying is that Tom Knapp is his son? :)
 
A buddy and I have always done casual trap shooting. He usually uses a semi and I use a pump. We will take out 4-5 shotguns as they heat up pretty good. I will load 6 rounds into mine and will get off up to 4 shots if I keep missing they clays before they hit the ground. Doubles isnt an issue with the pump, but like mentioned above it is automatic for me and when I try out his beretta I have to concentrate more. The first couples time I did try to pump it.
 
doubles with a pump

I was at a charity fundraising shoot on the weekend 50 trap, 50 skeet, 50 five stand and a flurry. A good friend was shooting his usual model 12, 12ga.
Now I want to tell you, its magic to see an accomplished pump shooter at a flurry event. It was the final event of the day it consisted of 32 birds launched by computer -- once the button is pressed 2 birds (simo's) are thrown every 6 seconds (not alot of time to shoot at a simo pair, eject 2 shells and load in time to attempt the next pair -- He shot a 24 out of the 32 -- it was unreal. So yes you can indeed shoot doubles with a pump! Practise/practise/practise. :)
Cheers, John


Just wondering if anyone has tried shooting doubles with a pump action? If so how'd you make out?

:)
 
I was at a charity fundraising shoot on the weekend 50 trap, 50 skeet, 50 five stand and a flurry. A good friend was shooting his usual model 12, 12ga.
Now I want to tell you, its magic to see an accomplished pump shooter at a flurry event. It was the final event of the day it consisted of 32 birds launched by computer -- once the button is pressed 2 birds (simo's) are thrown every 6 seconds (not alot of time to shoot at a simo pair, eject 2 shells and load in time to attempt the next pair -- He shot a 24 out of the 32 -- it was unreal. So yes you can indeed shoot doubles with a pump! Practise/practise/practise. :)
Cheers, John

I shoot all my trap exclusively with Winchester M12 trap guns. No pump operates as smooth IMO. Just have problems with those cheapo Federal target loads. Seems the silver steel base sticks a bit when extracting. Brass heads on the STS and WWAA no problem...smooth as silk! I'm not as good as the guy Grouser knows though!
 
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