doug turnbull 1895 gg .470

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Hey has anyone shot or own one of dougs converted guide guns. I just read he makes a conversion from 45-70 or 450 to the .470. Just looking for any real world experiences before I give him a call
 
I remember reading an article about Turnbull rifles.
Apparently the guys were hunting bison and the article mentioned that the 2 rifles combined were worth approximately the same as a new pick up truck.:eek:
 
I have an article on the 470 Turnbull in a Marlin 1895G from a Rifle magazine, written by Brian Pierce a couple years ago. I could look it up if it helps, i.e. if you want to order a back copy from Wolfe publishing. I thought it was a good read. I believe the gist of the piece was that the conversion increases your horse power somewhat, allows you to use heavier bullets and the work by Turnbull was first rate. The conversion isn't really that pricy, if my memory serves me, not like buying a custom Turnbull rifle. It simply involves a new barrell and some action work.
 
My concern always returns to recoil....do you really want or need a levergun that kicks more then a 45/70 loaded with 480gr. bullets at 1900fps.....If the answer is yes, go nuts, but go .50 Alaskan....IMHO
 
If you spend your money on reloading equipment instead of a conversion you can load the .45-70 pretty hot, especially in those Marlins. I gotta say though, those custom Turnbulls are pretty nice. I have even heard of converting a Marlin .45-70 to .45-90, though I can't say if there is any improvement, as I have no experience with the .45-90.
 
If you spend your money on reloading equipment instead of a conversion you can load the .45-70 pretty hot, especially in those Marlins.

X2 the 45-70 can be loaded very, very stout. Won't feel "undergunned" against anything walking on four legs with the right load (and a lot of practise ;) )
 
The 470's performance doesn't look to be anything you couldn't get out of a 450 Marlin, or a 45-70, but if you like having something that nobody else does
(as many of us do), then I think it would definitely fill the bill. Should you decide to sell it at a later date, you might find it very hard to sell especially if
the price is high - something you might want to consider.
 
Don't need the extra recoil and there are ways to reduce it. I've wanted a .470 for some time now and will never be able to afford a high grade double. A 470 in a lever gun would be fun. The 50 alaskan is neat but to much work making cases and loading for me at this point
 
If you spend your money on reloading equipment instead of a conversion you can load the .45-70 pretty hot, especially in those Marlins. I gotta say though, those custom Turnbulls are pretty nice. I have even heard of converting a Marlin .45-70 to .45-90, though I can't say if there is any improvement, as I have no experience with the .45-90.

Even in a lengthened Marlin action 45/70 rounds can be loaded too long to cycle. I wonder what benefits a 45/90 would give in a Marlin other than some extra brass for neck tension. So many bullets are now tailored for Marlins action length and throat making reloading for power easier. I wish there was a 350 gr tsx FN for my 1886, I like speer 350 HC's in that one.
 
I have a 45-70 double on the way. I was just looking at getting a big thumper for fun and can't a afford a purdy or westly richards. I think itd be fun to blast away with a .470. Btw I'd love to shoot a 700 nitro express. I got 2 chiropractors already on speed dial.
 
Is anybody making anything bigger then a .50 cal. yet?
And if not, I wonder how long it will be before somebody does?

OK... just googled my own question.... .700 Nitro is the answer I guess. Lordy, what a monster that must be!!!!

Try googling .950 jdj
 
check youtube for the 700 NE. Some pretty wild shtuff there. The guy shooting it looks like a carriage for a howitzer when he shoots, it rocks him backwards.
 
Try googling .950 jdj

I see you haven't found this thread yet...

You know of the 4 bore we did on falling block,
with its 1 inch bore.Using turned cases and cases
made from 20mm brass. Our cases have a rim and
straight sides. A smith in the EU made a 1 inch bore
gun on a bolt action, using 20mm brass expanded
to take 1 inch bullets. His case has a shoulder to
head space on. It is called the Inch Gun by some.
It is a really nice looking gun, with great
craftsmanship.Ed
inchgun.jpg
 
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