Dpms oracle ar
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notsorichguy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- The city that rhymes with fun
Less than $200 more than a nork......
That's a bargain!
Debating wether to buy it on spec or not........
That's a bargain!
Debating wether to buy it on spec or not........
Undergiver
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Sturgeon County, AB
they are double that price in the U.S. right now.
mississaugagunnut
Regular
- Location
- mississauga
I have one mounted on an Armalite Lower. This thing runs really well. I honestly can't remember one malfunction that has not been user error. I only run the cheapest ammo through it as well. Over 1000 rds down range by now.
Actually - after purchasing one as a gift for my dad (for successfull completion and recieving his RPAL) and close examination of the rifle I'm pretty impressed.
PROS
- Close fit between the upper & lower recievers
- Quality machining with no tool marks
- Lightweight "Pencil Barrel"
CONS
- Semiauto bolt carrier (The "Full Round" adds to reliability)
- Gas block rail NOT same height as Upper Reciever rail
- Uncomfortable collapsable rear stock that has a frig'n huge release lever (Replaced as soon as it came out of the box - even before the picture was taken)
- No sights included at all
- CommSpec Reciever Extension (Buffer Tube)
For the price though - it's pretty hard to pass it up!
Purchased at P&D in Early December
PROS
- Close fit between the upper & lower recievers
- Quality machining with no tool marks
- Lightweight "Pencil Barrel"
CONS
- Semiauto bolt carrier (The "Full Round" adds to reliability)
- Gas block rail NOT same height as Upper Reciever rail
- Uncomfortable collapsable rear stock that has a frig'n huge release lever (Replaced as soon as it came out of the box - even before the picture was taken)
- No sights included at all
- CommSpec Reciever Extension (Buffer Tube)
For the price though - it's pretty hard to pass it up!
Purchased at P&D in Early December
Actually - after purchasing one as a gift for my dad (for successfull completion and recieving his RPAL) and close examination of the rifle I'm pretty impressed.
PROS
- Close fit between the upper & lower recievers
- Quality machining with no tool marks
- Lightweight "Pencil Barrel"
CONS
- Semiauto bolt carrier (The "Full Round" adds to reliability)
- Gas block rail NOT same height as Upper Reciever rail
- Uncomfortable collapsable rear stock that has a frig'n huge release lever (Replaced as soon as it came out of the box - even before the picture was taken)
- No sights included at all
- CommSpec Reciever Extension (Buffer Tube)
For the price though - it's pretty hard to pass it up!
Purchased at P&D in Early December
Good review without shooting (meant respectfully), thanks.
I agree. The stock is pretty crappy. It does it's job, but I think it is a money saver and they assume 95% of people rep[lace them anyway.
Semi-Bolt carrier is fine. No worries there.
As far as I know, railed gas blocks are always lower than the receiver. Again, no surprise. I knew what I was buying.
I love the lightweight barrel.
The finish is really nice
The controls operate smoothly
1 D&H Mag
This rifle does not come loaded with someone elses aftermarket parts. Hence the low price.
You are buying a simple rifle, a blank canvas to create what you want. All for $850!
And if you get lucky.....the store might have one of these too! Hehehe Thanks EPPS for this one. Right place, Right time.
(This is the only one they had...so no mad stampede to EPPS in the morning, LOL)
The pencil barrels are nice to carry but under more extensive shooting strings you begin to notice group size open up much quicker than with a thicker barrel.
As for the railed gas block... On most of the industry ARs the railed gas block is the same height as the receiver... This is the only one I'm familiar with that uses a lowered rail. Not a big deal, since we're planning on removing it (2 set screws on the bottom) and replacing it with a Troy low-profile and a Alpha rail.
The semi-auto bolt carrier - this is a common feature in many of the "standard commercial" ARs. While nothing really wroung with it In the interests of being through i mentioned it. When you start getting into the "Tier 1" manufactures you'll find that most of them use a fully rounded "full auto" bolt carrier. The reason for this is simple - mass! The heavier carrier provides for more moving mass for positive extraction, slower cyclic rate (parts moving a bit slower so it don't beat the crap out of the gun) and better operation.
Thank you... We're planning on taking it out Sunday with some mixed loads to see how it functions (55gr fmj, 62gr fmj, 55gr HP, 75gr HP). Not really going to be a accuracy test with the T-dot scope and the fact it's now ""dads rifle" and he's mid-sixties and his "eye sight and what it used to be"(his words) - but more a reliability test.
Mind you if it goes "bang" every time and hits pretty close to point of aim... We're happy!
The lightweight barrel is a horrible idea. Heats up way to quick causing grouping to go to krap not to mention what the extra heat does to destroy the barrel. Would defiantly not recommend thinner barrels that what is already out there as standard.
The barrels get so hot blowing off those 5 rounds. ???
I can see some of the points made regarding the Bolt carrier weight and the barrel thickness.....WITH 30 round mags.
Even full auto and suppressors.
Guys, we shoot paper at 10-50M with 5 round mags, stop reading arfcom so much.
I can see some of the points made regarding the Bolt carrier weight and the barrel thickness.....WITH 30 round mags.
Even full auto and suppressors.
Guys, we shoot paper at 10-50M with 5 round mags, stop reading arfcom so much.
This isn't a target rifle--if you're shooting groups off the bench this isn't the rifle for you. Sure--a slim barrel heats up faster--but because there's less thermal mass, it'll cool off faster. And the extra heat will not destroy the barrel--at least with semi-auto shooting. What about the original full-auto M16 with its thin barrel? The M4 or M16A2 that has a thin profile under the handguards? Or newer rifles like the Tavor and FS2000 with their slim barrels? For its intended purpose, a the lightweight handling characteristics of a slim barrel on a short carbine are a much better idea than having an extra pound of steel in the barrel.
