DQs

Have you been DQ'd in a match?

  • Yes...........

    Votes: 54 40.0%

  • No..........

    Votes: 81 60.0%
  • Total voters
    135
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The BB qualifier hijack of the Sin City Thread got me thinking about DQs.

I have never been DQ'd (touch wood). Been in the game since 1998


How fare the rest of you?

As the saying goes.....There are two kids of IPSC shooters.

Those have been DQ'd


And those who will be DQ'd
 
In BC:

A Black Badge student must successfully complete a Level II in order to attain full certification for the BlackBadge course. If the student is disqualified in their first qualifier, the next qualifier that the student competes in must be under the direct supervision of a CRO or TCI. If the student disqualifies again then they must retake the course again.

In regards to DQ we also have the following rule in place:

If a member is disqualified in two sanctioned events in one competition year that individual will be put on probation for a period not less then one year , from the date of the second disqualification. If they are disqualified during the probationary period their shooting privileges will be suspended and they will be required to retake the Black Badge course.

If after re-taking the Black Badge course the student still end up being DQ again, their shooting privileges can be suspended for a period of time determined by the Board of Directors.

DVC
 
DQ'ed

Just a little thing I've noted some RO's think of Dq's as notches on a gunbutt.

Some RO's need as we all know' to take a refresher course read the rulebook once in a while it helps avoid DQ's that have to be reversed due to bad calls.
Nothing worse than having to tell someone who's upset that they really didn't do anything wrong just a mistake by the RO. Remember everyone's human and can make mistakes even an RO.

Supermag
 
I had a brain fart at a small club match and broke 90; realized what happened and stopped even before the RO stopped me...
 
I think my sig line answers that one for you.

It blew... ROYALLY!

Match fee: $150
Eight hours of driving each way: $240
Two nights hotel: $130

Seeing the look on my buddies faces as I came back to the range with Dairy Queen: PRICELESS!
 
To DQ or Not DQ; That Is the Question EH

As both Black Badge IPSC Competitor since 1991 and a NROI RO from 1997-2006 the "DQ" ruling is a very rigid test of BOTH the competitor and/or the RO.

That said there can be "No Doubt" in the RO's ruling that such a DQ did indeed take place and a firm estimation as per the CURRENT IPSC Rule Book.

Main thing is for the RO not to "let anything get past him or her WITHOUT as is noted in one previous post that the RO is adding "notches" to some mythical DQ gunbelt.

The corollary to this is that it is Very Challenging to be BOTH an RO and a Competitor in the same IPSC Match. Yet in the fifteen years of Level I,II and III Matches I have participated in it does seem to be a common practice.

My own solution was to either be an RO or a Competitor ,not Both at once.

I have found that it is not universal practice with the common rationalization that you should be able to BOTH shoot the Match and then RO and/or vice versa, that is RO the Match then shoot it.

The ultimate extension of this is to design and set up the Match then RO then shoot your own Match.

It does put the "walk through" in perspective eh!

In all these illustrations consider what if any potential "DQ Conflict of Interest" there may arise IF you end up DQing your own chief competitor in a closely contested match and/or "missing" something for whatever reason.

In the latter instance I was informed once after DQing one particularly well qualified competitor by another nameless RO that they had "seen him/her doing that" BUT had hesitated for whatever reason (insert one: DQ match director competing in his/her own match; extremely experienced and highly qualified competitor; erring competitor given a break because he/she had ROd all day and was tired or rushing to compete at end of day of ROing; immediate blood relative or very close friend of RO etc etc.

SAFETY is paramont as is an above board DQ ruling. We can only wish for a avideo replay given the "speed of light" of some DQ infractions that can and do take place in an "eye blink"...

In all my RO work I have thought of myself as an umpire in a ball game with all its attendant hazards and pitfalls with the overriding SAFETY aspect paramount.

In my opinion you cant pitch and call strikes and balls i.e. RO your own match and then compete in it and possibly, like it or not, eliminate by a DQ your own closest rival or one much farther down the list. Maybe on two separate days but not on the same one eh!

It is in my opinion a test of how far IPSC will go when it does have its cadre of RO's who are "arms length removed" from any competition in the matches in which they officiate, ie, to focus entirely either on RO work and possibly as the RO to DQ a competitor .

FOCUS is the key. To either RO or Not RO goes along in my opinion with the prospect, "To DQ or Not DQ". It is a judgement call that does have to be devoid of bias BOTH in its action and its perception eh!
 
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DVC1911 said:
In BC:

A Black Badge student must successfully complete a Level II in order to attain full certification for the BlackBadge course. If the student is disqualified in their first qualifier, the next qualifier that the student competes in must be under the direct supervision of a CRO or TCI. If the student disqualifies again then they must retake the course again.

In regards to DQ we also have the following rule in place:

If a member is disqualified in two sanctioned events in one competition year that individual will be put on probation for a period not less then one year , from the date of the second disqualification. If they are disqualified during the probationary period their shooting privileges will be suspended and they will be required to retake the Black Badge course.

If after re-taking the Black Badge course the student still end up being DQ again, their shooting privileges can be suspended for a period of time determined by the Board of Directors.

DVC
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I like it!
 
I've been:

Done once.

Almost done once.

Should have been done once.

My first DQ was on a "turn and burn" El Presidente variant. First round hit the ground about 8 feet left of the target (this was a long time ago under an older rule book). I got another 5 shots off before the RO's decided it wasn't just a miss. :)

Almost got done at the Nationals in Halifax. Got stopped by the RO because the gun "burped" on a tall, close target. Since I was about to reload, the arms were in such a position that it looked like the round might have left the range. Close inspection revealed all the holes in the paper. Reshoot.

Did a "draw from the table" with a Glock. I was prepping the trigger as I was raising the gun, and it went off, probably not in a safe direction. Who knew those Glocks had such hair triggers? Still not sure how the RO's missed that one. :p
 
Much the same as omen I stopped just before I was called, the RO was one of my teachers plus it was at our club. That was in the spring and I was twelve, I am thirteen now and I will not make the same mistake again.
My dad should have been DQ'd at Russrlmania but Dan took pity on him......

Curt
DVC
 
curtdad said:
Much the same as omen I stopped just before I was called, the RO was one of my teachers plus it was at our club. That was in the spring and I was twelve, I am thirteen now and I will not make the same mistake again.
My dad should have been DQ'd at Russrlmania but Dan took pity on him......

Curt
DVC
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Nope, Dan made a bad call, and was happy about it. I didn't want to DQ your pa. He's a good guy.
 
Bartledan said:
Nope, Dan made a bad call, and was happy about it. I didn't want to DQ your pa. He's a good guy.
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He has been so close so many times it is not funny. The only reason
you let him off at Russelmania is because he was still down range, but
even he said he should have been out. ( He is giving me the evil eye now)
And your lucky there are other people reading this cause you know I
would let you have it..... Not even Trit could help you so WATCH IT.
Curt
DVC

ps I got to go to bed.........Dad again:rolleyes:
 
Not yet DQ'd

Have DQ'd a few since I got my card in 92. (Don't consider any a nocth in belt.)

Have likely missed 10x times what I called, do to "If I can't see it I can't call it". I must be 100% sure.

If I work a match I always try to shoot it. Otherwise you burn out quickly.

When I shoot I always appoint someone else to take my place as CRO. Usually Philthy ( I know he would DQ'd my ass. Given the chance)
 
93/94? My first match that I traveled to from the NWT. Lethbridge. Cow stage. Yes, FREAKIN COWS!:D

Was running way to fast through the cows, my feet started to go out from under me rounding a corner in wet grass. I broke my two-handed grip on the gun and as I fought to regain my balance to avoid a face-plant, I guess I swung my gun hand(and muzzle) passed 90.

At the time I was devastated, but over the years of watching far better shooters than myself getting DQed trying too hard, I got over it.













Freakin' cows...........:p
 
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