Drilling K98 stock for cleaning rod
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I to have an Isreali Mauser and had wondered about the lack of hole for the cleaning rod till someone explained that when the "rosery bead" pull through was issued with the cleaning kit they did away with the rods as it was redunant. Others with deeper knowledge can certainly add to or refute this.
I prefer the balanced, original appearance of the cleaning rod under the barrel. I know it's not true to the Izzy K98 but someone before me D&Ted this example (poorly I might add) so it's lost a fair amount of value anyways. A cleaning rod won't hurt it much.
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AK,
You probably have a late war stock that has the takedown hole in the buttplate instead of the 2 washers on either side of the stock?
It might be easier to just get another stock, in the event it cracks or doesn't line up from the drilling procedure.
The other thing is milling the oval hole in the stock for the metal cleaning rod nut which is a threaded piece oval in shape.
You probably have a late war stock that has the takedown hole in the buttplate instead of the 2 washers on either side of the stock?
It might be easier to just get another stock, in the event it cracks or doesn't line up from the drilling procedure.
The other thing is milling the oval hole in the stock for the metal cleaning rod nut which is a threaded piece oval in shape.
Some Israeli K98k's were newly made by FN post war but most are made up of various parts including WW1 and WW2 vintage. Lots of post war Czech k98k's were also sold to Israel.
I have a post war Czech K98k with a mixture of Czech, Imperial Germany, and WW2 German parts on it. The stock is similar to the late war stocks with the takedown hole in the buttplate and is not drilled for a cleaning rod and post war manufacture.
Surplus K98k's and parts make up a big part of the Israeli K98k's.
Thanks for the advice so far fellas, seems like it's not a practical conversion whatsoever.
A few notes on my particular example, it is an ex-German rifle whose receiver appears to have been heavily butchered by Bubba. It currently has two off-axis holes in the receiver by the chamber, plus one at the rear. I can also make out several TIG welds that look to cover additional holes, one of which obscures the manufacturer code which is either DOT or DOU 45. Several Israeli markings adorn it.
Most interesting about this particular specimen though is its two digit serial number. Matching parts seem to include the bolt and barrel though I'm not sure how the latter is possible since it's a 7.62mm, unless the Israelis renumbered it perhaps? The stock itself is in very good shape with almost an orange tinge to it and appropriately marked 7.62 on the underside. The cupped butt is the late-war style with the hole through the side.
Overall an interesting piece. I've abandoned the cleaning rod idea and think I'll satisfy my urge to "origify" it again with a repro front hood.
A few notes on my particular example, it is an ex-German rifle whose receiver appears to have been heavily butchered by Bubba. It currently has two off-axis holes in the receiver by the chamber, plus one at the rear. I can also make out several TIG welds that look to cover additional holes, one of which obscures the manufacturer code which is either DOT or DOU 45. Several Israeli markings adorn it.
Most interesting about this particular specimen though is its two digit serial number. Matching parts seem to include the bolt and barrel though I'm not sure how the latter is possible since it's a 7.62mm, unless the Israelis renumbered it perhaps? The stock itself is in very good shape with almost an orange tinge to it and appropriately marked 7.62 on the underside. The cupped butt is the late-war style with the hole through the side.
Overall an interesting piece. I've abandoned the cleaning rod idea and think I'll satisfy my urge to "origify" it again with a repro front hood.
It would be relatively easy to find out if it is a dot or dou. dot coded rifles are marked 1945 under the dot code. dou 45 rifles are marked Mod. 98 above dou. 45. These markings are on the front receiver ring of course. There are no known dot 1945 German rifles. All dot 1945 are post war rifles but often use left over German waffenamt marked parts such as barrels. dou. 45 was used by the Germans but also post war by the Czechs as well.
When the rifles were rebuilt to 7.62 by the Israeli's, parts were often renumbered to match. Bolts were scrubbed and renumbered, etc. Most likely this is why your bolt matches the barrel.
As to the hood, Israeli K98k's had a unique hood with a pin through the rear half of them and a hole through the sides on the front half. Often the pin is missing so they appear to have two holes on each side. There was a proper Israeli hood on the EE a while ago but it was missing the pin.
Post up some pics of the receiver and various markings. I really like the Israeli k98k's and have a couple myself including one still in 7.92x57. They have a lot of history to them. I'd like to see yours.
When the rifles were rebuilt to 7.62 by the Israeli's, parts were often renumbered to match. Bolts were scrubbed and renumbered, etc. Most likely this is why your bolt matches the barrel.
As to the hood, Israeli K98k's had a unique hood with a pin through the rear half of them and a hole through the sides on the front half. Often the pin is missing so they appear to have two holes on each side. There was a proper Israeli hood on the EE a while ago but it was missing the pin.
Post up some pics of the receiver and various markings. I really like the Israeli k98k's and have a couple myself including one still in 7.92x57. They have a lot of history to them. I'd like to see yours.
I have an Israeli in 7.62 that I'm looking to restore, pics are in another post. I'm planning to recluse and restock the thing, it's pretty rough right now, I'm curious what's suppose to be blued and what's suppose to be left in the white. And what do you recommend for stripping and polishing the metal parts before bluing??
