Drinking at hunt camp

Vodka Gatorade's have gotten me thru life :) and plenty of power point presentations.... LMFAO

Dont think I could ever hang around people that dont drink and that dont do any stupid ####. Heck all my friends are either Mil / Leo or people that fit in the grumpy as phuck category,

Life's to short to GAF or be sober for more then 8 hours a day.

We do bring tourniquet and quick clot to hunting camp... lol... You know in case SHTF. :)
 
Here in Ontario the tradition of the hunt camp goes back a 100yrs as some of the long established camps are that old. Most of them were started on 99yr. leased land from the government. Those leases have ran out and there now on new shorter government leases. They all have there established territories that are understood and respected by neighbouring camps even though there all actually hunting on crown land. Every camp has its established runs to drive deer. So some fellas dog and some fellas stay on stands. Some camps actually use dogs. Traditionally the younger fellas do the dogging, the older fellas that have paid there dues sit on stand. This takes organization and someone has to organize and co-ordinate the drives so everyone is kept safe. When I had my camp I was in partnership with two other fellas. On drives we collaborated on a plan, but ultimately for some reason I was always in charge on making sure it was set up properly and safely. If the fellas decided they just wanted to go out and sit on a stand which we found in our area due to the large swamps was the most productive then my job became a whole lot easier as then all I had to know is where each man was approximately going to be so if he did not return by dark at least we had a general idea of where to start looking. Ultimately as the owner at the end of the day if chit happened I am responsible, so I always tried my best to only have good chit happening, and keep everyone safe.

I also hired the camp cook and went over the weekly menus and made sure he had the funds to purchase the food. It was also my responsibility to ensure we had enough propane on hand, the water tank was full, the generator was working properly. I also fixed anything that broke and generally made sure everything was running smooth. The guys I had on the second week of the deer hunt we a dream to be in camp with as they just did stuff, never had to say a word to one of them in 20 yrs. They new what had to done and did it. All I had to do was set it up and do a bit of co-ordinating. I got fed up in the early years of the camp with the #### heads my one partner was inviting to camp, so I bowed and let him run those weeks and deal with the bone heads.
When my guys came to camp all they had to bring was there personal gear and there booze and mix, the camp supplied everything else. Early on I seen the need and benefit of having a camp cook. I charged just enough per man per week to cover expenses plus a little to put in the camp kitty for general repairs and taxes. Over the years it worked exceedingly well as we only had fellas leave by death or severe health issues. The comrade was excellent. I turned everything over to my nephew when I moved up here, so now he runs the show. We owned 800 acres plus had another 1200 acres under lease. With this size of property it not only has to be managed but policed, as there is always an issue with trespassing. Most often it is just fellas thinking there on crown land and there not. If late in the day I would invite the trespassers back to camp, give them a beer, show them the maps and suggest where they could go to hunt. If they were a$$holes with attitude they were dealt with differently.

Might be hard for you fellas out west to understand all this but this is part of world of hunting here in Ontario. Very old and very traditional. There is even an Ontario Hunt Camps Association which effectively gives the camps a stronger voice when dealing with government regulatory issues. Our camp was camp #242. Some of the larger camps have to run like a small business. I have an acquaintance who runs a camp that operates 52 weeks a year. They operate not only for hunting, moose, deer and bear. But small game hunting, fishing, snowmobiling, general vacationing. So it is not whether one system is better than the other, its just the way it is done here. Southern Ontario has a huge population and not enough hunt able land to let everyone do there own thing. So you fellas in the west are fortunate to have lower population densities and lots of land to roam on.
 
I love beer but have never been into day drinking... maybe on vacation sitting on a beach or dock somewhere... I never crack a beer before 5 pm really and wouldn't want to drink while doing something like hunting.
 
as there is always an issue with trespassing. Most often it is just fellas thinking there on crown land and there not. If late in the day I would invite the trespassers back to camp, give them a beer, show them the maps and suggest where they could go to hunt. If they were a$$holes with attitude they were dealt with differently.
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And of course sometimes things can go wrong with a hunting weekend........ :)

Fun second rate movie back in 1976 but a bit slow at times.

Available full version on Youtube apparently.

MPW-60880
 
mrgoat said:
Here in Ontario the tradition of the hunt camp goes back a 100yrs as some of the long established camps are that old. Most of them were started on 99yr. leased land from the government...........Might be hard for you fellas out west to understand all this but this is part of world of hunting here in Ontario. Very old and very traditional. There is even an Ontario Hunt Camps Association which effectively gives the camps a stronger voice when dealing with government regulatory issues. Our camp was camp #242. Some of the larger camps have to run like a small business. I have an acquaintance who runs a camp that operates 52 weeks a year. They operate not only for hunting, moose, deer and bear. But small game hunting, fishing, snowmobiling, general vacationing. So it is not whether one system is better than the other, its just the way it is done here. Southern Ontario has a huge population and not enough hunt able land to let everyone do there own thing. So you fellas in the west are fortunate to have lower population densities and lots of land to roam on.
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Actually it is intriguing. A you did a good job of describing it, too.
Hunt camp brings to mind 'The Deer Hunter'...the only reference I can access at this time.
I have worked in a Texas Camp and it required a firm hand or it got out of control, the variety of different personalities are a challenge in a remote setting.
One guy gets up early, makes coffee and has breakfast, is dressed and has the vehicle running while another ( always 'That Guy' ) is stumbling through in his gonch.
I've wondered how close Deer Hunter was to the real thing.
 
Gatehouse said:
Pretty much how everyone I hunt with feels.

But over the years on CGN I've seen a very distinct difference between Eastern and Western hunters. I had never heard the term "hunt camp" or "hunt camp leader" or "hunt camp rules" etc before conversing with people here.

We just go hunting. It's not always in the same spot. It might involve a cabin, a wall tent, a single man tent, a tarp or even a bivvy sac. Whatever it may be, the term "hunt camp" has never been used.

We often hunt with the same folks, but we also hunt with different people. As in "hey I'm heading up there in 2 days, wanna come?" or "I have next week off, can I tag along?" (that's where you find out if you are a jerk or not) :)

Whoever we hunt with, wherever we camp, we all sorta feel the same way...just pull your own weight. Get firewood, help with the chores, cook or clean,don't bring Lite Beer, etc. Simple stuff...

Maybe if we went to the same cabin and hunted the same places every year at the same time we would come up with "rules" but knowing my friends we would distill it down to only one rule.

"DON'T BE AN A$$HOLE"
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Good post Gates, I think this sums it all up - no one like hanging out with an azzhole - if no-one ever invites you to hunt with them, it's probably because you fit the bill!

Hunting with good friends, having a drink with supper or around the fire while shooting the breeze is all part of the experiance, hunting times are good times - keep all the BS for other times.
 
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After a day of hunting, when the firearms are unloaded, i will have a couple glass of wine, when i invite peoples to hunt up my cabin, i wont tolerate any drinking and returning to the woods, my place, my rules... JP.
 
Great explanation, mrgoat. Thank you for that.

And yes, I think (hope) most of us Westerners understand and appreciate how fortunate we are.
 
You drink too much at night your still drunk in the morning for a while. Look how many people get busted "the morning after" driving.

People are counting on me coming home from a hunt alive. I've got no use for drunks in my life especially with guns.
 
AB reg's don't exclusively prohibit drinking or drug use; just not impaired by Alcohol or drugs...but as one LEO told me in my youth " I'll decide if you are impaired, Kiddo "
Probably don't P.O. a F & W officer with a beer on your breath then.
I am leary driving a truck after having had any more than 1 beer...I personally would give guns the same respect.
But overall an interesting look at the Hunt Camp thing, thanks all.
 
Everyone on here seems to be very responsible drinkers. Nice. In my experience it has always been the opposite most people become stupid when booze is present.
 
ironsighter said:
Great explanation, mrgoat. Thank you for that.

And yes, I think (hope) most of us Westerners understand and appreciate how fortunate we are.
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Wow! I'll say. I dread the day when our hunting in Saskatchewan is reduced to this, but I can already see it coming. I have purchased one quarter of land and will likely buy more in the near future because of the strengthening land owners rights and the general dislike of hunters and their antics.

As too the original post. The guys I hunt with don't really have a "rule" about drinking. I however do not drink and hunt and I keep getting invited back so I'll just keep with my program.
 
Amelio said:
Everyone on here seems to be very responsible drinkers. Nice. In my experience it has always been the opposite most people become stupid when booze is present.
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My experience has been that the stupid are still stupid when boozing it. I prefer not to share a grid square with them.

Last invite out I got, I was really pleased with the guys that I met there (at least one CGN'er too). One of the guys that sorta begged his way along, on the other hand, was likely asked to not return, If he wasn't already turned off the idea anyways. Let his teenage kid run around the camp area shooting at squirrels. Set up a shooting range, of sorts, and burned through all the ammo he had left before he drove home. Generally an arse during the time he was there. Thought there was some sort of guarantee that he would shoot a Moose, etc.

I suspect I'd be welcome there again. Him, maybe not so much.


What's a hunt Camp without a little artful BS anyways, Kelly? Dull, that's what! :)

Cheers
Trev
 
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You talking to me ? If not disregard the following.

If so .......I'd say your a troll.


My life and my wife's have been affected adversely by drunks.

My friend Gordon Mullens was shot to death by a drunk from another camp while bear hunting with his dad and brother.

So.....
I have no use for drunks in my life, especially if they have firearms.

Those are personal points of view. Is that enough explanation for you ?
It's more than should have to be given.........but some people need more
Info.
You want to yapp off to me have at it...........or go troll someone else
 
No one here has ever shot gophers or backyards clays and had a beer or two to enjoy it?

There is a line getting drunk and playing with guns, but we are all adults here.
 
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