Drinking at hunt camp

Wow! I'll say. I dread the day when our hunting in Saskatchewan is reduced to this, but I can already see it coming. I have purchased one quarter of land and will likely buy more in the near future because of the strengthening land owners rights and the general dislike of hunters and their antics.

As too the original post. The guys I hunt with don't really have a "rule" about drinking. I however do not drink and hunt and I keep getting invited back so I'll just keep with my program.

Lol....... you would be surprised if you had experience living in different provinces...... due to DND service I have lived in most...... Saskatchewan, bc, etc are no better than most...... hunting within a 2 hour radius of a metropolitan centre sucks everywhere unless you own the land.....

I would submit that, as much as bc has some of the best hunting in the country, anything within 2 hours drive of the lower mainland etc, is amongst the worst hunting in the country and harbours the largest population of posers in the country......
 
The east/west thing comes to play because most of southern ontario is private land, and a bunch of guys are lucky enough to be invited to hunt deer on one property, usually 2-400 acres. There is usually a cabin involved and this becomes the 'camp', because the hunt is always in the same spot.

Its hard for those to imagine, that arent as confined. Dont even mention hunting with hounds...
 
During our two week deer hunt we only bring one bottle of red wine. It is not opened until a buck is hanging on the pole. My son and I have no place in life for drinking alcohol. We love chasing mature whitetail bucks, therefore a sober mind and a well rested body is required. Coffee and a coke-a-cola is a regular drink at night while talking about the days events and plans for the next day. When a buck is down, we like to bring the head in camp and measure him up.

 
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You talking to me ? If not disregard the following.

If so .......I'd say your a troll.


My life and my wife's have been affected adversely by drunks.

My friend Gordon Mullens was shot to death by a drunk from another camp while bear hunting with his dad and brother.

So.....
I have no use for drunks in my life, especially if they have firearms.

Those are personal points of view. Is that enough explanation for you ?
It's more than should have to be given.........but some people need more
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This above. Everyone has reasons for either imbibing in alcohol or foregoing it. Some have religious convictions or some have had bad experience like above. For me I just don't like guys being off their face and near me with guns. If the guns are packed away and hunt is done for night it's OK but my own personal view is I don't want to be that obnoxious guy who is possible people off.
 
I would submit that, as much as bc has some of the best hunting in the country, anything within 2 hours drive of the lower mainland etc, is amongst the worst hunting in the country ......

Wow. Total BS.

The LML is a huge area. Depending where you are in the LML, you can potentially access excellent hunting within 2 hours. Princeton, Merritt, Spences Bridge, Tulameen etc. etc. all accessible from Abbotsford with ~2 hrs. From West/North Van it is under 2 hours North to Pemberton, for some excellent hunting. I see plenty of success stories from these areas every season.

Really the only place in BC that doesn't have "great" hunting is the LML itself, but the same can be said for any major metropolitan area in the country. The rest of the province quite literally has World Class hunting. People come here from all over the world.

If you didn't experience that while you were here, then you should come back and stay longer next time, and don't live so deep in the big city.
 
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Wow. Total BS.

The LML is a huge area. Depending where you are in the LML, you can potentially access excellent hunting within 2 hours. Princeton, Merritt, Spences Bridge, Tulameen etc. etc. all accessible from Abbotsford with ~2 hrs. From West/North Van it is under 2 hours North to Pemberton, for some excellent hunting. I see plenty of success stories from these areas every season.

Really the only place in BC that doesn't have "great" hunting is the LML itself, but the same can be said for any major metropolitan area in the country. The rest of the province quite literally has World Class hunting. People come here from all over the world.

If you didn't experience that while you were here, then you should come back and stay longer next time, and don't live so deep in the big city.

Maybe I should have clarified..... It's not the game or woods that's lacking by any means.... it's a beautiful area, you got that right for sure.....

What makes the hunting amongst the worst (imop), is all of the weekend warriors that pour out of the LML and occupy the woods with quads and such..... I prefer to hunt where I have the woods to myself (unless I am in hunt camp of course, where I know all the guys and we are working together)......
 
Maybe I should have clarified..... It's not the game or woods that's lacking by any means.... it's a beautiful area, you got that right for sure.....

What makes the hunting amongst the worst (imop), is all of the weekend warriors that pour out of the LML and occupy the woods with quads and such..... I prefer to hunt where I have the woods to myself (unless I am in hunt camp of course, where I know all the guys and we are working together)......

I can definitely see this being more of a problem the closer you get to LML, simply because of the population density. I also concur about the "weekend warrior" aspect, which peaks during long weekends - especially if they coincide with the opening day of a popular game species. This spills over to the interior and north, but it thins out as it goes. On regular weekends, mid-season, it is not hard to be alone in the woods if you get 2 hours away from the LML. A big part of that is being willing to get out of the truck or off the quad.

Knowing where most of those LMLers focus their attention is the key. Avoid those areas and you are good to go, in my neck of the woods (Kamloops).
 
Maybe I should have clarified..... It's not the game or woods that's lacking by any means.... it's a beautiful area, you got that right for sure.....

What makes the hunting amongst the worst (imop), is all of the weekend warriors that pour out of the LML and occupy the woods with quads and such..... I prefer to hunt where I have the woods to myself (unless I am in hunt camp of course, where I know all the guys and we are working together)......

Anybody that wants the woods to themselves within 2 hrs of the LML only needs to walk a km off the road.

If you stick to the road systems you will certainly encounter others, especially on weekends.
 
I think gatehouse and Johnny y are right...... but to a certain extent......

One km is not a far walk...... and all of that truck movement and four wheeling has to disturb game patterns......

I don't criticize anyone for the way they hunt, dontvget me wrong....... but if I am going to put in as much work and research as I do, inorefer to have the place to myself..... but go each their own, and as long as we are all hunting legally, it's all good....
 
^^^^ That would be true pretty much anywhere. Folks are pretty bush shy unless they spend a lot of time in it.

Pretty much been my experience, both here in BC and out in the Prairies.

Once you are one hilltop away from the road, you usually have the place to yourself. Less than that, if there is any bush or trees.

Deer are not exactly the Einsteins of the natural world, but they have a pretty good handle on where they have run into things that spooked them, and where nothing has bothered them. They didn't hang out within sight of the road so much. And most of the "hunters" out in the parts I lived in, rarely got out of sight of their trucks, or off the roads.

Good for me, not good for them, so much.

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baileys and a couple beers in the morning, couple beers after lunch, and 10-15 beers at camp. :cheers:

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I think gatehouse and Johnny y are right...... but to a certain extent......

One km is not a far walk...... and all of that truck movement and four wheeling has to disturb game patterns......

I don't criticize anyone for the way they hunt, dontvget me wrong....... but if I am going to put in as much work and research as I do, inorefer to have the place to myself..... but go each their own, and as long as we are all hunting legally, it's all good....

A km isn't a far walk on easy terrain, but it can be pretty damn far in the steep coastal rainforest that surrounds much of the LML. Absolutely, the truck and 4 wheel traffic disturbs game- in that the big bucks generally get off the road and up the mountain or down the drainage away from the roads. All that driving will push animals away from the road hunters and right into the guys that get off the road and do the hard work.

Not saying that nobody ever bags a deer on the side of a logging road, happens all the time, but rarely the big ones.

When you say that the hunting around the LML is poor and you need the place to yourself to effectively hunt and that truck traffic on the road is detrimental to your success, it tells me that you didn't know how to hunt around there, you are out of your element and unable to adapt to a completely new type of hunting.

The main big game species hunted in this area are blacktail/ mule deer and black bear.

Black bear hunting around the LML can be as good or better than anywhere else in Canada, especially as the population of bears are high, you can hunt them about 6 months of the year, there are plenty of big ones and you are allowed 2 a year. Where else in Canada than southern BC can you get out and stretch your legs or drive around (as you choose) and see multiple bears every day, without having to do all the work of baiting and endure sitting on stand? Heck, a couple of years ago due to work and other commitments I had 1 (one) day to hunt bear. My buddy and I went out that afternoon and glassed across a valley, didn't see much at first until finally I say "check out that black spot there with your spotter" Cionfirmed bear, looks good. An hour later I dropped the 6'8" bear...It doesnt' always happen that way, but anyone that spends 3-4 days in the LML region can kill a bear. Anyone that spends 4-7 days can kill a big bear. If you hunt reasonably smart, of course.

Blacktail hunting around the LML can be very good hunting, but for it to be good, it's not easy. Every year, trophy class blacktails are killed within an hour of the LML, usually by guys that get off the road, do the research and do the work. Mature Blacktails are by far the toughest deer to hunt, they are smart, cagey, virtually impossible to pattern, and live in tough terrain. However, many of these big bucks are killed in areas that have lots of pressure along the road systems, by hunters that left the road. They may still be able to hear the trucks and quads, and the deer can too, but the deer don't care because they know they have 500m of cover between them and the road hunters.

I'm not sure what sort of tactics you employed to come to the conclusion that hunting was poor because of road hunters, but I tell you one thing- I'm fine hearing trucks and quads go by when I am off the road. It's when they park and start climbing up the same ridge I am on (very rare) that can be an issue. And even then, if you know which direction they are headed, you can use them to your advantage.

BC has very little private land compared to public land. Those used to 'controlling' all hunting in an area may find it challenging to hunt with others in the area, I suppose.

And to stay on topic- yeah, some of those road hunters are sipping a beer while they road hunt, too. :)
 
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baileys and a couple beers in the morning, couple beers after lunch, and 10-15 beers at camp. :cheers:

Reminds me of a few years ago...

A good friend for years finally decides at age 44 he is going to start hunting. Wins a Moose draw in an area he has a very nice cabin on a lake. Myself and another buddy go hunting with him. Have a few chances but didn't close the deal. Finally early one morning we go out and call and another moose shows up, boom! Down by 8am. Pics taken and moose cut up and in truck by 8:45. Celebration beers beside the truck at 8:46. Moose quarters hanging in the carport by 10. Ten million beers and gallons of whiskey ensued.

We didn't hunt the next day. :)
 
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