Drool !!! My Wells Fargo Marked S&W DA

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This is a Very rare S&W DA 44 Russian.
WELLS FARGO Marked as well.
Looking at the WF mark its got the same wear and patina as the rest of the gun.
Marked along the barrels side is 44 S&W CTG
Has the full S&W Barrel address then the W&F marks
Its got Peral grips!
Real antique pearl :)
Hard to find a neater gun than this.
Its the Long Cylinder 1 and 9/16th long 44 Russian cylinder so can shoot 44 Sp if a person wanted it to but its staying in 44 Russian because its hard to find this model with WF marking mostly them guys used schofields.
Shes sporten a 6.5 inch barrel to so this guy liked to shoot.
Picture the gun rideing in a holster bumping along on a stage coach on some dusty road in the old west.
Or on a train chugging slow up some mountain pass billlowing smoke, the Wells Fargo Agent with nervous sweaty hands fondleing the pearl grips till the train clears the pass and speeds up safe from outlaws LOL.

Once its here i will post better pics this is a great gun with history on its own without the WF markings as long Cylinder S&Ws are harder to find in 44 Russian.
I checked out the WF markings there correct.
I will get a S&W Letter on the gun to.
go nice with my pearl handled SAA Colt...
 
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"In 1869 at Promontory, Utah, dignitaries hammered in a Golden Spike which joined the rails of the Transcontinental Railroad – and ended Wells Fargo’s overland stageline operations.

However, stagecoaches continued rolling wherever the railroads did not. Wells Fargo contracted with independent stageline operators to carry treasure boxes and express, even into the early 20th century"


^ thats from Wells fargo History off the net.
Wells fargos still operated on Railroads well after the stage coachs left and stage coachs still ran in areas railroad did not into the early 1900s

This gun was made in the 1897
Theres Alot of Fake Wells Fargo marked guns out there but im gona do some serious checking into this one the markings are correct not sure if a S&W letter will help but maby.
The fine barrel top surface patina runs thru the wells fargo markings and barrel address there both worn down the exact same amount which meens its not a recent marking but done when the gun was new.
 
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I am sure you already know this Dingus but according to an avid american S&W collector with a substantial WF maked Smith collection,apparently the majority of fake Wells Fargo markings can be attributed to 1 or 2 known dealers/collectors from Texas. Guys from the Smith and Wesson Collectors Association with a couple of photos should be easily able ID a real marking for you. That said probably most WF & Co marks seem to be on single action Smiths, most famously are the Schofield models and it would be odd to see a fake on anything other as they are generally a little less popular as collectors items and it would be hard to see the incentive for a counterfiter when there are sufficient single actions to bugger up.
 
apu said:
I am sure you already know this Dingus but according to an avid american S&W collector with a substantial WF maked Smith collection,apparently the majority of fake Wells Fargo markings can be attributed to 1 or 2 known dealers/collectors from Texas. Guys from the Smith and Wesson Collectors Association with a couple of photos should be easily able ID a real marking for you. That said probably most WF & Co marks seem to be on single action Smiths, most famously are the Schofield models and it would be odd to see a fake on anything other as they are generally a little less popular as collectors items and it would be hard to see the incentive for a counterfiter when there are sufficient single actions to bugger up.
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Good Point Apu
Yes if it were a Schofield id be more suspisous but i have seen this marking and i have seen orignal WF markings and mines the same and worn to same as the rest of the gun to.
I will do that tho let some real USA S&W collectors see the WF marking.
 
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Man that's a big gun!
Understandable how one swipe to the head with that beast & you are getting coloring books for X-mas for the rest of your life.
I'd imagine it must be fairly sedate to shoot being that big & blackpowder too.
 
That is a very nice gun Dingus. I really like the look of old ivory or pearl on the old six shooters. Nice to see more pics when she shows up and to see what more you find out.
Matt
 
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Well is hard to say the WF markings are identical to the antique Schofields ive seen on USA web sites on there barrels also and as per normal on a forum i get 3 or 4 guys say theres no way to tell some say it looks good one very old guy who is very short on details says its fake but wont let us know how he came up with that. LOL
It would be easy to remove if its fake because its behind the barrel top address then i could restore the gun the way i like em :)
If its Orignal WF marked i have to leave it.
Bottom line sounds like theres no certin way to tell so i will just leave it as it is because its so old the marking if it was faked it was done 100+ years or so ago.
 
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dingus said:
"In 1869 at Promontory, Utah, dignitaries hammered in a Golden Spike which joined the rails of the Transcontinental Railroad – and ended Wells Fargo’s overland stageline operations.

However, stagecoaches continued rolling wherever the railroads did not. Wells Fargo contracted with independent stageline operators to carry treasure boxes and express, even into the early 20th century"


^ thats from Wells fargo History off the net.
Wells fargos still operated on Railroads well after the stage coachs left and stage coachs still ran in areas railroad did not into the early 1900s

This gun was made in the 1897
Theres Alot of Fake Wells Fargo marked guns out there but im gona do some serious checking into this one the markings are correct not sure if a S&W letter will help but maby.
The fine barrel top surface patina runs thru the wells fargo markings and barrel address there both worn down the exact same amount which meens its not a recent marking but done when the gun was new.
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I've read "experts" that said there are more faked Wells Fargo marked S&W revolvers than real ones. Often it is hard or impossible to tell the fakes from the real ones. There is some chance that records can show a specifiic ser# was a direct sale to Wells Fargo but usually not.

The actual revolvers are real, even if some of them have fake Wells Fargo marks. They are well worth picking up even when the Wells fargo markings cannot be documented. IMO they are one of the better bargains available in an antique revolver.
 
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That is just pretty,how much would we have to pay for one like that in Canada? Do you know if it is hard to import these types of handguns antique or old,into Canada from the U.S.?
Cheers Bob
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jethunter said:
I've read "experts" that said there are more faked Wells Fargo marked S&W revolvers than real ones. Often it is hard or impossible to tell the fakes from the real ones. There is some chance that records can show a specifiic ser# was a direct sale to Wells Fargo but usually not.

The actual revolvers are real, even if some of them have fake Wells Fargo marks. They are well worth picking up even when the Wells fargo markings cannot be documented. IMO they are one of the better bargains available in an antique revolver.
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This gun is a beauty either way, theres no realy way to tell im just gona leave the marking on it and if someone buys it let them know theres no real way to tell if the WF marking is True or faked.
One thing for sure it was done along time ago as its worn the same as the rest of the gun.
As to the guys on here asking on Value theses Long Cylinder models in 44 russian in Good condition sell for $1800 and go way up i seen them sell for $2800 up here and on the US auctions theres alot of Euro buyers like theses. They can be made to shoot 44 Sp and ive had a few that were set up in 44 Sp they are one of the most accurate guns to!
I got a good deal on this one so might keep it or maby sell it i never know till i have them in your hands. :)
 
I would love to own that gun ,it's a beauty with those pearl grips
IMHO,I saw pics on another forum and I don't think it's a fake but very much original
 
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