DT11 EL wood and DT11L

[hnachaj]

The first 1000 DT11made, had EL wood of which the first 4 that came into Stoeger in May 2012 had. The wood on these DT 11 were much nicer than the DT11L. Check the serial number of the shotgun!
Here is my DT11 with EL wood.

This a typical DT11L wood at the Premium Gunshop

 

[the spank]

What does the EL stand for? I know that Beretta's "Extra" wood is a straight grained wood done in a film dipping process and then finished over to give it the appearance of select grade burl type wood. Just don't ever refinish it is all or your fancy look is gone.

 

[Claybuster]

What does the EL stand for? I know that Beretta's "Extra" wood is a straight grained wood done in a film dipping process and then finished over to give it the appearance of select grade burl type wood. Just don't ever refinish it is all or your fancy look is gone.

Not the same. EL stands for "Extra Lusso" which translates to "Extra Luxury. It is a Beretta designation for higher end guns. Beretta like many gun makers will often put fancier wood on the first guns in a production run to make them more appealing. Therefore early DT11s will generally have nicer wood than later guns. Note if you are buying a gun online advertised with an EL stock make sure you get pictures of BOTH sides.

As you noted, Xtra Grain and Xtra Wood are the film finishes are found on less expensive guns. Beretta marks the stocks with this finish which helps prevent unscrupulous gun dealers from attempting to pass them off as real wood. I've called out a couple of dealers who tried it including a prominent site sponsor.

Xtra Grain and Xtra Wood are like breast implants. They look pretty good from a distance but up close and uncased anyone with a little experience can easily tell they aren't the real thing.

 

[hnachaj]

BTW, the premium shop use Beachwood -Casey stock oil on the premium guns! Some other gunmakers also use it. If you don't wax the stock, you should use English furniture lemon oil. It brings out the grain and protects the wood. My 391 Gold Sporter refinished in oil by Klaus, looks like an extra wood with the lemon oil!

 

[the spank]

Not the same. EL stands for "Extra Lusso" which translates to "Extra Luxury. It is a Beretta designation for higher end guns. Beretta like many gun makers will often put fancier wood on the first guns in a production run to make them more appealing. Therefore early DT11s will generally have nicer wood than later guns. Note if you are buying a gun online advertised with an EL stock make sure you get pictures of BOTH sides.

As you noted, Xtra Grain and Xtra Wood are the film finishes are found on less expensive guns. Beretta marks the stocks with this finish which helps prevent unscrupulous gun dealers from attempting to pass them off as real wood. I've called out a couple of dealers who tried it including a prominent site sponsor.

Xtra Grain and Xtra Wood are like breast implants. They look pretty good from a distance but up close and uncased anyone with a little experience can easily tell they aren't the real thing.

I kind of figured it's not the same thats why I asked what the EL designation meant?

 

[damowers]

I thought I could get some feed back on a question since the subject matter is berretta wood. Is it possible to get a replacement stock and matching forend from the Berretta premium shop - where would this shop be located I am thinking Italy but would they have a shop in the US? I have inherited my dads berretta 687 EELL. He bought this as a retirement gift for himself perhaps 25 years ago. He was a left handed shooter and I am a right handed shooter. A quality shotgun deserving of quality furniture. My first consideration is to find a stock maker and invest in a fitted stock and premium wood, but certainly appreciate you thoughts if I should contact Berretta.

 

[Claybuster]

I thought I could get some feed back on a question since the subject matter is berretta wood. Is it possible to get a replacement stock and matching forend from the Berretta premium shop - where would this shop be located I am thinking Italy but would they have a shop in the US? I have inherited my dads berretta 687 EELL. He bought this as a retirement gift for himself perhaps 25 years ago. He was a left handed shooter and I am a right handed shooter. A quality shotgun deserving of quality furniture. My first consideration is to find a stock maker and invest in a fitted stock and premium wood, but certainly appreciate you thoughts if I should contact Berretta.

I wouldn't bother with Beretta but would instead contact Rich Cole. He's got a ton of wood in stock (pun intended) including some nice sets for the EELL.

Lots of mouth-watering eye candy here. Not hot linked because they are not site sponsors. Just cut and paste in your browser.

http://www.colegun.com/pages/wood-sets

Even though Coles prices are not cheap it should be less expensive to go this route than a custom stock maker. You may however have to get the stock professionally fitted to the gun due to the sideplates on the EELL.

I've ordered parts from Cole and they will ship to Canada. I haven't ordered a stock from them however and can't say if it would require additional paperwork.

 

[Brobee]

I thought I could get some feed back on a question since the subject matter is berretta wood. Is it possible to get a replacement stock and matching forend from the Berretta premium shop - where would this shop be located I am thinking Italy but would they have a shop in the US? I have inherited my dads berretta 687 EELL. He bought this as a retirement gift for himself perhaps 25 years ago. He was a left handed shooter and I am a right handed shooter. A quality shotgun deserving of quality furniture. My first consideration is to find a stock maker and invest in a fitted stock and premium wood, but certainly appreciate you thoughts if I should contact Berretta.

I've bought a couple of DT11 stocks from cole custom gunsmithing in the U.S. They ship to Canada without any problem. They also have a great selection of beretta 687 stocks. You will need to find a local stock maker/gunsmith to fit the stock to your receiver.

Cheers,

Brobee

 

[r_taylor]

I thought I could get some feed back on a question since the subject matter is berretta wood. Is it possible to get a replacement stock and matching forend from the Berretta premium shop - where would this shop be located I am thinking Italy but would they have a shop in the US? I have inherited my dads berretta 687 EELL. He bought this as a retirement gift for himself perhaps 25 years ago. He was a left handed shooter and I am a right handed shooter. A quality shotgun deserving of quality furniture. My first consideration is to find a stock maker and invest in a fitted stock and premium wood, but certainly appreciate you thoughts if I should contact Berretta.

A little closer to home is Jakob Straßer at Calgary Shooting Centre. German Master Stock Maker with a ton of wood blanks. His work is quite amazing. His CGN handle is Jakobthesmith.

 

[Brobee]

I little closer to home is Jakob Straßer at Calgary Shooting Centre. German Master Stock Maker with a ton of wood blanks. His work is quite amazing. His CGN handle is Jakobthesmith.

Jakob did an outstanding job of fitting my cole custom left hand stock to my dt11. Recommend his work with the greatest enthusiasm.

Cheers,

Brobee.

 

[Jakobthesmith]

Hi I am Jakob the stock maker. Feel free to contact me at jakob@theshootingcentre.com

 

[damowers]

Thank you guys for the contact and link information

 

[bangbang]

Have to agree , the wood looks like beretta xtra wood like the one on the teknkys but I don't think they will do that on a dt11...

 

[Beretta687EELL]

I thought I could get some feed back on a question since the subject matter is berretta wood. Is it possible to get a replacement stock and matching forend from the Berretta premium shop - where would this shop be located I am thinking Italy but would they have a shop in the US? I have inherited my dads berretta 687 EELL. He bought this as a retirement gift for himself perhaps 25 years ago. He was a left handed shooter and I am a right handed shooter. A quality shotgun deserving of quality furniture. My first consideration is to find a stock maker and invest in a fitted stock and premium wood, but certainly appreciate you thoughts if I should contact Berretta.

Are you looking for a custom made stock for you or a stock fitted to you with perhaps an adjustable comb and or butt plate?

I understand that Beretta will not ship anything to Canada. Stoger in Whitby, Ontario is the Canadian distributor for Beretta.

If you are looking for another stock that is already made and want to fit it to your gun ... then you need to make sure that it will match to your rib. The receivers and barrels on the 680 series guns can almost all be interchanged (with minimal fitting). The ribs are different heights, depending on the style of gun you have. As a result, you need to make sure the stock matches the rib height that you have.

 

[Claybuster]

I understand that Beretta will not ship anything to Canada. Stoger in Whitby, Ontario is the Canadian distributor for Beretta.

Going through Stoeger to order a stock from Beretta would be a test of your patience. The last time I checked they won't do a special order but would have the stock included in their regular shipments which might not be for many months.

My previous dealings with them are why I order from Cole.

 

[beretta boy]

Another two thumbs up for Cole. I've been to his shop in Harpswell, Maine a couple of times and would love to see his new shop in Naples, Florida ! Maybe this coming winter.
They certainly did ship to Canada, and presume they still do. Coles wood sets come out of Mechanica del Sarca, the same subsidiary that supplies the Beretta production stocks & forends.
Usually lots of good sets in stock, but no matter what, some minor fitting by a good gunsmith will be required.

I have one of their exhibition grade stock/forends on a 391 Parallel Target. It's actually a little nicer than the wood on my DT-10, although both could be described as as EL or even EELL in grain compared to some of the high grade Berettas I've seen & handled. Better than catalogue picture grade !

Nice piece of wood on your DT-11 Henry ! Almost looks like French Walnut rather than the Circassian that it is. Lucky lad. My DT-10 is a 1st year production as well, but notwithstanding, Beretta ships a wide variety of figured wood on their guns, from plain vanilla to (occasionally ) WOW.

 

[Beretta687EELL]

Going through Stoeger to order a stock from Beretta would be a test of your patience. The last time I checked they won't do a special order but would have the stock included in their regular shipments which might not be for many months.

My previous dealings with them are why I order from Cole.

The point I was trying to make was that Beretta won't ship to Canada because Stoger is here. Almost everything that I ever bought for my Berettas came from contacts that I made on Trapshooters.com. I always found Coles to be on the high side of the pricing and never bought anything from them.

 

[Claybuster]

The point I was trying to make was that Beretta won't ship to Canada because Stoger is here. Almost everything that I ever bought for my Berettas came from contacts that I made on Trapshooters.com. I always found Coles to be on the high side of the pricing and never bought anything from them.

I agree. I just didn't want him to think he could order a stock through Stoeger without the potential of a lengthy wait and massive frustration.

Cole doesn't offer the lowest prices but they have excellent customer service, a spectacular inventory and reliable shipping qualities not often found when dealing with Stoeger.

 

[hoytcanon]

Cole's did this Beretta 391... they did a great job;

 

[hnachaj]

My DT10L was the first one in Canada and had El wood but not as nice as the DT11. The DT 11 has been sent today to a new home.
Here is a nice piece of wood: