DU damage control email....

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I was forwarded this today... just thought I'd post it here for discussions.

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Dear DUC Volunteer,

Following our recent communication regarding Ducks Unlimited Canada’s (DUC) position on the firearms e-petition, we’ve heard from a number of volunteers who are looking for more details.

Let us begin by saying that DUC proudly supports the country’s hunting community. Waterfowl hunting is an integral part of our heritage—and our future. DUC continues to support hunting as a way to connect with nature and develop an appreciation for wetlands and the need to conserve them.

DUC’s position to remain neutral on the firearms e-petition is rooted in the responsibility we have to our mission—the conservation of wetlands. It’s a position we’ve taken for decades. All our policy activities must be directly related to wetland conservation. This focus allows us to deliver the critical habitat that supports hunting traditions and all outdoor lifestyles. In addition, Canada Revenue Agency guidelines stipulate that DUC can only engage in political activities that further our charitable purpose of wetland conservation.

Within Canada’s conservation community, DUC’s role is clear. We conserve and restore habitat. Other organizations, including provincial wildlife associations and hunting groups, address issues related to firearms. This partnership serves us well and has led to incredible conservation achievements across the country, including the 6.4 million acres of habitat under DUC’s care across the country.

DUC Volunteer, when it comes to the e-petition, we encourage you, and all our supporters, to exercise your individual rights as you see fit.

To help provide some additional background about DUC’s position, here are a few answers to questions we’ve received:

Q: Does DUC support hunting?
A: Yes. DUC supports hunting, when conducted in a legal and sustainable manner, as a legitimate and acceptable use of a renewable resource. Hunters are among the most devoted conservationists. They spend a lot of time outdoors and appreciate how nature provides for their life and lifestyle. They support conservation through the purchase of their hunting licenses and are often leaders in creating conservation policies and regulations.

Q: Why is DUC neutral on the firearms e-petition?
A: Our position to remain neutral on the current firearms e-petition is solely based on the obligation to keep all of our policy activities focused on our mission of habitat conservation. Pursuant to Canada Revenue Agency guidelines, DUC can only engage in political activities that further our charitable purpose. This is part of our responsibility to all supporters who entrust us with delivering habitat gains on the landscape. Other groups such as provincial wildlife associations, firearms groups and others are much better equipped to address firearm issues.

Q: Why does DUC hold a seat on the Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee but remains neutral on the firearms e-petition?
A: DUC does not hold a seat on this committee. Jim Couch is a DUC volunteer who accepted the invitation to join the committee as an individual, not as a representative of DUC. He does not act or report on behalf of DUC in this capacity. His qualifications for the committee (as outlined in his biography) include being a former executive at Potash Corp., a competitive curler, gun club member, retriever club member and DUC volunteer.

Q: Why do you use firearms in your fundraising activities but do not support the firearms
e-petition?
A: We recognize the value of waterfowl hunters in the establishment and ongoing success of DUC. Firearms are often used as part of DUC fundraising activities as a way to celebrate and recognize the hunting and conservation lifestyle. However, the debate around firearm legislation is a different matter. It involves decisions and expertise that fall outside of our stated mission of wetland conservation.

Q: Why won’t you share the firearms e-petition with DUC supporters?
A: Pursuant to Canada Revenue Agency guidelines, DUC can only engage in political activities that further our charitable purpose of wetland conservation. While sharing the e-petition may seem like a harmless request, doing so would represent the first step of policy engagement outside our mission.

Q: Why should I support DUC when you don’t support firearm owners?
A: The critical element to the future and livelihood of the hunting community is habitat. Without habitat there would be no wildlife. Supporting DUC remains one of the most effective ways of ensuring this habitat remains for hunters and all Canadians to enjoy.

Q: Why must DUC maintain its neutral position on the e-petition?
A: This is not a new position for DUC. As a charitable conservation organization, we have for decades remained neutral on all policy issues that fall outside of our habitat conservation mission. This approach reflects our responsibility to deliver wetland habitat and wildlife that benefit hunters and all Canadians.

Our position on the firearms e-petition is posted on our website.

DUC Volunteer, thank you for everything you do as a DUC volunteer.

Tim Binch
National Manager Volunteer Fundraising
Ducks Unlimited Canada
 
Fu-ck 'em.

Take every dollar you can from their pockets. Their excuses can be used on those that care.

Plenty supporting our rights, defund those that do not. US hunters can pony up the difference if DUC is that important to them, I'm sure they got MILLIONS lying around to make up the shortfalls.
 
I like how they pose the question why should hunters support DU when DU wont support firearms rights. They go on to imply without DU there would he less habitat for hunters.

It seems they fail to realize without hunters there would be no DU

Being that semi auto shotguns could very well be a target of the libs you would assume this is a fight they should be in.

They want to sit on the fence and play both sides

I wont be supporting DU ever again. This is not the time for half hearted responses or cowardice.
 
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The Canada Revenue Agency says no, I call bull####!

They are liberal boot lickers getting 41 million dollars per year from the turd.

They can’ t have it both ways, they either support gun owners, or they don’t, this says they don’t.

Time to disengage DU folks!
 
If the Libs take my guns i won't need any ducks. So it's Ducks Unlimited's problem that the libs are after my guns. So they need to change their name to Guns Unlimited. Because guns make ducks. And I like guns.
 
They're not for wetlands at all. Everywhere around where I live and southern Ontario in general you see their big billboard "another successful ducks unlimited wetlands restoration project" no, all I see is a puddle or a trickle of a drainage ditch with some dead grass growing around it with your name on it. They just buy up land they can get tax return on and put a sign up like they did something. At least delta waterfowl will actually work on a project.
 
In addition, Canada Revenue Agency guidelines stipulate that DUC can only engage in political activities that further our charitable purpose of wetland conservation.

Pursuant to Canada Revenue Agency guidelines, DUC can only engage in political activities that further our charitable purpose.

Q: Why won’t you share the firearms e-petition with DUC supporters?
A: Pursuant to Canada Revenue Agency guidelines, DUC can only engage in political activities that further our charitable purpose of wetland conservation. While sharing the e-petition may seem like a harmless request, doing so would represent the first step of policy engagement outside our mission.



I am an accountant by trade. I'm not a tax accountant but rather a managerial account... so I don't claim t be an expert on the Canada Revenue Agency and its policies.

However, I am perplexed as to how the CRA can ultimately say "yeah or nay" to what they deem as acceptable (or unacceptable) "political activities." to any non-profit organization.... ???

Say for example, Rod and Tracy at the CCFR made the decision to media or even financial support/donation to a "youth at risk outreach program" what right does the CRA have intervening.... what right does the CRA go the the CCFR and say you can't do this because "it is outside side of your mandate"...


I would suspect that Ducks Unlimited gets a chunk of funding from the federal government... and they are hiding behind the CRA because they simply do not to make any waves that might cancel their meal-ticket
 
I would suspect that Ducks Unlimited gets a chunk of funding from the federal government... and they are hiding behind the CRA because they simply do not to make any waves that might cancel their meal-ticket


It's clear they crunched the numbers, and government hand outs far out weigh the grass roots efforts. I'm willing to be they in the next few years even shift further into environmentalism, leading to them barring all hunting on their land, calling them water foul conservation areas.
 
Thanks Stephen Harper,

As a board member of a nonprofit organization I am well aware of the gag order legislation Harper passed. This removes nonprofit tax status if an organization uses its fund to support political positions, essentially. They used it to shutdown the Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society because they were promoting letter writing campaigns trying to get Harper to do good things. DU using their resources to promote gun control lobbying for either side of the debate can legally allow CRA to remove there charitable status. End of story. Basically a freedom of speech gag order. Just remember who did this to us. It’s okay to use it on tree huggers but it can now also be used against us. The auditor for the organization I sit on the board of warns us not to do what Ducks also says they can’t do or CRA can and will make your nonprofit taxable on all the donations and income you get.
 
Wow...lots of heat on DU today. First canola council getting slammed for collaborating with them now the firearms community laying into them.

#### em I'm gonna drain every goddamn slough and low spot I can on my land.
 
It's clear they crunched the numbers, and government hand outs far out weigh the grass roots efforts. I'm willing to be they in the next few years even shift further into environmentalism, leading to them barring all hunting on their land, calling them water foul conservation areas.

I would have to agree with your statement... its just so more Liberal long term social engineering.... moving us away from "Canadian Traditions" an more towards environmentalism (cities and cars of the future that are powered by unicorn flatulence) and a guns-free socialists utopia style of life
 
Thanks Stephen Harper,

As a board member of a nonprofit organization I am well aware of the gag order legislation Harper passed. This removes nonprofit tax status if an organization uses its fund to support political positions, essentially. They used it to shutdown the Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society because they were promoting letter writing campaigns trying to get Harper to do good things. DU using their resources to promote gun control lobbying for either side of the debate can legally allow CRA to remove there charitable status. End of story. Basically a freedom of speech gag order. Just remember who did this to us. It’s okay to use it on tree huggers but it can now also be used against us. The auditor for the organization I sit on the board of warns us not to do what Ducks also says they can’t do or CRA can and will make your nonprofit taxable on all the donations and income you get.

I wasn't aware of this so I did some research. It sounds like those policies may have been reversed?

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-ag...ces-charities-about-political-activities.html
 
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