Ducks with the 16 Gauge

CoryTheCowboy

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Hey everyone,

As some of you may remember a few months ago I bought an Ithaca 37 with the intent of using it for ducks this year. Me and MadTrapper143 did some choke work to it and we're guessing it's about a Modified choke now versus the factory Full. We had no way of measuring the factory bore size, so we're just guessing on this.

Then came the load choice. MT143 kindly sold me a few boxes of factory Federal #4 steel that kicks along at about 1300FPS. I've a firm believer that with steel, it's speed that kills so I went about looking into reloading for it. I bought a MEC 600 Jr. as my converted Lee LA II kept crushing hulls. Ballistic Products in the States offer components along with a load manual. However, they don't ship to Canada but told me to talk to their Canadian distributor. After a few e-mails with Will Bilozir I had a fair supply of components and a load manual. I assembled 7/8oz load of #6 Steel that shoots beautiful patterns at 25 yards, which for me is decoy range. #4 would be lucky to hit the broadside of a barn :confused:

The book states it should be shooting at over 1550FPS, which is more, for lack of a better term, my speed :rolleyes: I was a bit hesitant using under an 1oz of shot (which I used in the 12 Gauge), but I thought in the ranges I was shooting I would be alright. I was ready for the season.

After two dismal days of "guiding" my sister, I headed to a nearby creek. I had just settled in when a Mallard came in overhead and landed on the far side. As I stood up she jumped and a quick snap shot brought her down dead as a doornail. I would estimate the range at 15 yards.

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I went out the next evening and in 7 shots I had 4 ducks ranging from 15 to 35 yards.

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Including a "Dutch Double" on Green Wing Teal

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Yesterday the family went out grouse hunting and I brought along 5 steel loads "just in case". We drove past a creek when Dad said, "3 Mallards son!". I took off the blaze orange (I know not needed right now, but better safe than sorry) and attempted a stalk. I managed to get about 20 yards from a hen on the water when I stood up. Ducks jumped from all directions and in two quick shots I had my first "true" double. I would guess both shots to be under 20 yards. Both dead by the time they hit the water.

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NOTE: I do not usually hunt with no pants, but I thought I would have to wade out into the creek to pick up the first bird I shot.

Then this morning me and Dad headed out into the rain and I shot a female Widgeon and a drake Woodie. The Widgeon was about 35 yards out and the Wood Duck was about 15. No pictures.

This isn't meant to be a "bragging" post about the ducks I shot, it's more just meant to be...informative. I did a fair bit of research before reloading and there's not a lot of information on steel shot and the 16 that I could find (yes, I looked at 16ga.com) and since this is my favourite forum, I thought I'd share. I also don't claim to be an expert on the 16 or duck hunting, just a guy who likes to play with odd guns.

For the average Joe who isn't willing to spend a good amount of time reloading (Steel is slow to reload as it doesn't measure very well), I think the 12 would be a better choice.

Cory
 
Good post. Nice to see some dedication.

Whats wrong with hunting in shorts?!?! Lol.

I am surprised about the velocity you are getting out of your 16. I guess the light payload is helping. I would suggest that that zippy load of 6 steel would make a great grouse/woodcock (snipe) load as well.

Eta. Back when lead was legal my cousin and I killed more that our fair share (figure of speech) of ducks, and even geese with the lowly 16. I still use the 16, but only for upland these days.
 
Good post. Nice to see some dedication.

Whats wrong with hunting in shorts?!?! Lol.

I am surprised about the velocity you are getting out of your 16. I guess the light payload is helping. I would suggest that that zippy load of 6 steel would make a great grouse/woodcock (snipe) load as well.

Ground swatted a chicken with one the other day. Worked great! But so does a .22 ;)

My chronograph should be arriving this week sometime, so if I can get it figured out I'll try and shoot a few over and see what the velocity is.

Cory
 
Great post Cory. I shot a big honker on September 01 with the same load but #4 steel. My old 870 16 bore seems to handle #4 well. ( My 1100 is another matter...) Looking at the pictures reminds me of some good recipes I have hanging around for puddlers...

Darryl
 
Go down to Lower Steeprock Lake(Wagita Bay) lotsa ducks there, even with a 16 gauge, I used to get tons of ducks there.
 
I have a buddy who sold all his 12's and only hunts with 16's -- ducks, geese, grouse, rabbits. He has a whole collection including black powder muzzle loading antiques. I've stripped off to the gotch a couple of times in my youth to retrieve a bird too. Now I make the dog get them.
 
Ben Hunchak, Wagita Bay is now back watered due to the Valerie Falls Power dam project. I shot a pile in there years ago also. The mallards used to come in and eat the big snails in the shallows. It is pretty barren now but still provides the occasional late season diver hunt. Sawmill Bay on lower Steep Rock is still producing wild rice and ducks to this day. Man do I have some memories of Wagita before the power project ruined it.

Darryl
 
Once I wasn't having much luck moose hunting, too warm and nothing was moving, so I took the afternoon off and went down there to hunt ducks for a break. I got settled in my blind and started looking for ducks, I looked towards the mouth of the bay and a large bull moose was crossing the water...just my luck!!
 
Even so close to town Sawmill and Wagita Bays always were wild. I have seen lots of moose deer and bear while hunting there. I don't think Cory is old enough to have experienced Wagita Bay in the good old days but it was something.

Darryl
 
I'd say you're doing everything right. Great work on the reloading. Your 16 is doing as fine a job as any 12. And with style!

Now if we could talk about the issue of a grown man in Ghost-Busters pajamas . . .
 
I'd say you're doing everything right. Great work on the reloading. Your 16 is doing as fine a job as any 12. And with style!

Now if we could talk about the issue of a grown man in Ghost-Busters pajamas . . .

What can I say? ;)

I know my Dad was wondering why I was going after ducks with a 16 when I just bought a 12 in May. I told him if he had to ask he wouldn't understand ;) When I dropped the 2 ducks in the creek he was watching from the road. I asked how he felt now that he had "experienced the TRUE power of the 16 Gauge". He said, "It was pretty impressive Darth Vader" :p
 
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