Dueling pistols set value?

[wolfface]

I'll do my best here, a death in the family, has me looking for a value on a set of deuling pistols, as I am the "gun guy" but have no experience with these or anything about them.

The name on the top of the barrel says "Mahillon Arosier Bruxelles" otherwise there is no markings on these. I'll do my best if other questions need answering, hopefully a picture is worth a million words.

I know a value is hard to quote but even an "ish" value, good condition with a few minor bumps and dings looks like everything is still in the kit. Someone mentioned replica but am not sure, trigger works and the hammer has good spring tension.

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[mrclean89]

They are in amazingly good shape, are they smooth bore or rifled ?

Also is there any proof marks on the guns ?

They look a little to good to be true but yo never know.

The guns are also in the style of lepage target pistols.


As far as value it greatly depends on if they are real or not.

Cheers, McLean

 

[mrclean89]

I meant is there any on the underside of the barrels if you havent already checked ?

 

[mooncoon]

they look extremely like some reproductions made within the last 20 years. As best I remember they had an antique style of rifling; many narrow grooves. Also the serial number on the reproductions were on the bottom of the barrel and you had to remove a screw through the stock to remove the barrel. It is also my impression that those guns were on the EE or perhaps in the black powder forum sometime in the last couple of years

cheers mooncoon

 

[wolfface]

There is no markings under the barrel and the only markings on the guns are the script "Mahillon Arosier Bruxelles" on top of the barrel. I will find out if the barrel are smooth or rifled.

They have a strong rifling in them...............

 

[dingus]

There is no markings under the barrel and the only markings on the guns are the script "Mahillon Arosier Bruxelles" on top of the barrel. I will find out if the barrel are smooth or rifled.

They have a strong rifling in them...............

Tap out the front wedges (Carefully)and lift out the barrels the marks will be on the underside of the barrels.
The case looks correct and french style to me im not sure on the guns if theres no markings on the underside of the barrel, ie real proofmarks then there good copys.
They look real to me so do the tools and stuff but with good repos its very hard to tell your pics are not up close enough.
If there real id buy em but im more into cartridge guns.
Take some more close up pictures.

LOL i love the part in that document where the dueling pistol owner picks the gun that has a rifled bore and the other smuck who insulted his woman or dog pet turkey ect, gets the unrifled bored gun.

 

[APF1985]

I would be interested as well. Any word if these bad boys are real? Yet?

 

[Al Flipo]

What is the correct definition of dueling pistols ? Smooth bore, no sights, flintlock ? By the time the cap lock system was in use, dueling was mostly declared illegal.

 

[mooncoon]

Tap out the front wedges (Carefully)and lift out the barrels the marks will be on the underside of the barrels.
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The gun(s) that I am thinking of, you remove the barrel key but you also have to remove a screw and I think it is the front screw on the trigger guard. I have seen an identical set as well as an identical single gun locally. Yours may be original but if so should have a belgian proof mark somewhere on the barrel.Belgium has had mandatory proof marks since before 1800

cheers mooncoon

 

[Kirk1701]

I can tell you that from "Bruxelles" they're most likely Belgian.

 

[Musketfire]

They look "kinda" like these, but only kinda--

http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/tipologia-prodotti.asp/l_en/idt_6/pistols-mang-in-graz.html

They are a beautiful pristene set, and if from the family, mayhaps best kept in the family.

If these are real origionals they are museum quality in a boxed set.....20 thou low ball.

 

[wolfface]

Ther is some letter (777) under the barrel of one and some script that is very faded and hard to make out. I am going to send a bunch of pictures to Dingus.

Thanks again for everyones help,

 

[plinker 777]

I think that these are repro's, very nice repro's but modern all the same. The construction off the display case is the tell {as well as a lack of proper patina on everything inside}. Back in the day, the joints of a box were dovetailed, and then there's the hinges...case (excuse the pun) closed.

These do have a value Wolfface as they are gorgeous and I personally would be proud to own and shoot them, I just don't know what a fair value would be as I've never seen them sold. I think that whatever the price is it's quite a distance from 20 large though.

Post back when you find out, we're curious.

Plinker