Dyna-Bore Coat

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Is anyone here using Dyna-Bore Coat previously known as Ultra Bore Coat?

If so does anyone in Canada carry it? Just looking into it now...

http://www.dynamicfinishes.com/
 
Yeah, I've used it quite a bit. The Dyna coatings group won't export it into Canada, due to the hazardous goods restrictions with shipping, and there are currently no good distributors set up in Canada. I'm trying to convince them to let me sell the stuff in Canada as an "automotive coating" through my Auto parts retail business, which is justified since it can be used to preserve any metal object. This would at least make the stuff available north of the border. I'm running low and need to get some more for myself, in addition to potentially providing it for other people!
 
They used to ship it to Canada, but they won't anymore for retail purposes. I found that out about 3 months ago when I tried to order some more off their website, but Doug emailed me and told me that he had to cancel my order and refund my card due to shipping and border issues.

We are in the process of getting the legalities worked out so he can get it up here in large shipments.
 
BTW, if you find out something different, please let me know as I would be more than happy to just order off their website rather than dealing with all this legal crap. All I want is to get my hands on some UBC and UGS. I figured that if I'm going to go through the hassle of importing the stuff into Canada wholesale, there would probably be other guys who wanted to get some too. I could provide the stuff locally if this all works out.
 
Just curious: Why mess around with "voodoo" coatings? Why not just purchase a properly lapped match barrel and shoot it?

This seems like it's right up there with "Gun Juice", Moly and HBN.

Is there any hard proof that it makes a well shooting barrel shoot better?
 
It doesn't make a barrel shoot better. It is a ceramic coating that prevents copper and powder fouling from building up in the bore. It also supposedly has at least a slight effect on increasing barrel life because of the layer of ceramic material between the bullet and the bore, decreasing friction and blast on the steel.

This coating neither improves accuracy, nor degrades it. But it sure cuts down on the time you spend cleaning your barrel. And it's not voodoo. It's science, and it works.
 
You have a scientific study that will back up that claim?

Not being facetious here, I'm all for things that make you warm and fuzzy while your shooting, but it seems like Voodoo science to me unless some study was done to prove this.

If the claims were true I would imagine that this stuff would have infiltrated the competitive crowd (BR, TR, F-Class, etc) by now.
 
Do some searching around and you'll find plenty of people that have tested and experimented with the stuff, myself included. It's really not that complicated. See how long your barrel can go without cleaning until accuracy falls off. Install UBC in the same barrel and then repeat. My rifles all dramatically increased their service life between cleanings. The bore cleans easier and quicker, too. I can get a barrel back down to "bare steel" with 5 patches or less after shooting hundreds of rounds without cleaning. A bore scope will reveal great things, as will some time spent shooting and cleaning the same rifle with and without UBC.
 
CyaN1de said:
Just curious: Why mess around with "voodoo" coatings? Why not just purchase a properly lapped match barrel and shoot it?

This seems like it's right up there with "Gun Juice", Moly and HBN.

Is there any hard proof that it makes a well shooting barrel shoot better?
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Do a google search on Ultra Bore Coat, there is oodles of write ups on it. John Barsness has written about it in articles and over on 24hourcampfire many times. I have been reading on it for about four nights now and I don't think I have found a bad review on the product yet except from guys who have never tried it. I don't have any first hand experience but from what I can see it is no "snake oil".

When I posted this I was looking for a place to buy it, that's it. I wasn't looking for opinions from guys who have never used the product and I wasn't trying to convince anyone to use or try it. I would never do so without first hand experience.

When I do get to try some I will post my results, good or bad. From what I can see so far it works as advertised just as Jordan Smith posted above.

Her is one article by John Barsness:

http://www.americanrifleman.org/Webcontent/pdf/2009-10/20091015104116-cleanbarrel.pdf
 
crazy_davey said:
Would you mind posting some of your end results with this product?
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The main reason I went with it was because of the terrible barrel fouling I used to get in one particular rifle.

I'd clean the rifle down to bare steel, fire 2 or 3 shots at the range and come home and try to clean it out again.

I could honestly spend days trying to get the bore clean again.

I tried using JB Bore paste to smooth down any rough spots but didnt have much luck.

I bought the UBC, applied it according to the instructions and now I have a rifle that will clean up in 4 or 5 patches.

The rifle isnt any more accurate but cleanup is a whole lot better.

As far as Gun Juice goes, I've read plenty of good things about it.
 
I am experiencing the same issue Mike. The barrel is deadly accurate but fouls quickly and accuarcy is gone at that point. Everything I have read pretty much mirrors what you say.

I would like to try it out so I can see for myself if the claims are true and this barrel would be a great test pilot.
 
Kayser Sose said:
...interestinggg.... how is this stuff applied, again?

Sorry, I didn't catch the name of your auto parts shop...?
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My auto parts business is called Precision Motorsport, Inc, but the website is listed under the trade name of Jerbel Autowerks, and is currently under maintenance.

UBC (which I guess is now called Dyna-bore coat) is applied by cleaning your bore completely down to bare steel, degreasing with a supplied degreaser, then soaking a loose-fitting bore mop in UBC, coating the bore, and then letting it dry overnight. Then you cure the coating by shooting about 10 rounds throug the rifle. Once cured, the ceramic coating will last the lifetime of the barrel, and you don't need to use brass brushes anymore. You just need to use a good solvent and patches. If you REALLY have lots of fouling (like thousands of shots worth), then you might need to use a nylon brush.

I've noticed that UBC works better and better the more you shoot and clean the bore. The first couple of cleaning cycles seem to cure and condition the coating, and after that you're good to go. I often clean the bore after about 30 curing shots, then again after another 100, and then I'll run hundreds of rounds through the barrel. I usually just clean whenever I feel like it, since it takes a long bloody time for accuracy to drop off. I just noticed that my Ruger Hawkeye SS .280 was starting to print slightly larger groups than it used to (after about 400 rounds since it was last cleaned), so I soaked it in Wipeout for a couple of hours and pushed a couple of patches through it and it was back to bare steel and grouping well again.
 
crazy_davey said:
I am experiencing the same issue Mike. The barrel is deadly accurate but fouls quickly and accuarcy is gone at that point. Everything I have read pretty much mirrors what you say.

I would like to try it out so I can see for myself if the claims are true and this barrel would be a great test pilot.
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One thing to keep in mind is that UBC works better in some barrels than others, but I haven't yet read of any experiences where it didn't at least help.
 
If you think it works, go ahead and use it. Like almost everything we do in serious shooting, it is based on anecdote rather than evidence. just like barrels break-in, moly coating, or even one brand versus another.

Richard echoes exactly my thoughts.... I have a healthy dose of skepticism at panacea claims that a molecules-thick application of an evaporated liquid compund can resist 65,000 PSI and temperatures hot enough to turn metal into plasma, all while being abraided by a metal projectile travelling at close to mach 3.

However, as I have no evidence-based basis for refuting such a belief, your beliefs are every bit as valid as my own.
 
It's a ceramic compound with a liquid carrier, not an evaporated liquid compound. And last I checked, the rifle bore is not turned to plasma with each shot ;) Having done a bachelor's degree working in labs with various sciences (Organic chemistry in particular), it's downright amazing what some synthesized compounds are capable of.

Believe it or not, there is evidence supporting the claim that UBC does what it claims to do. Just like Cerakote or UGS protect steel from the elements as they claim to. I have seen no accuracy changes, positive nor negative, when applying UBC to bare steel, so I really don't see why I wouldn't apply it to my rifles if it increases the accurate shooting intervals between cleanings...

YMMV, but I've seen the evidence myself.
 
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