Early 1905 Ross bolt assembly problem

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Guys, I am hiding my head in the sand. Went to a gun show and there was this poor, lonely 1905 Ross sitting on a table, crying. It needed a new home, I needed a new friend (my 19-year-old pussycat just died).

Problem is that it is a VERY early 1905 Ross and is so marked. Actual date of manufacture is 1906. It has the very early screw-on cocking piece and this is the problem.

Guy who sold the rifle couldn't get it put together and neither can I. I haven't been this frustrated since I got my first 1905, which was just about 45 years ago!

Problem is that it appears that the coking-piece should just thread on but, in order to tighten the thing up, you must pull the cocking-piece back so that it is completely out of the bolt, then turn it to its correct position and then allow it to move forward into its "cocked" position.

It doesn't want to come back far enough to be turned, yet it appears that it needs about another 8 turns.

Will someone PLEASE tell me what I'm doing wrong????? It's GOTTA be me: the army never would have accepted a rifle that could not be put together!!!
 
smellie said:
Guys, I am hiding my head in the sand. Went to a gun show and there was this poor, lonely 1905 Ross sitting on a table, crying. It needed a new home, I needed a new friend (my 19-year-old pussycat just died).

Problem is that it is a VERY early 1905 Ross and is so marked. Actual date of manufacture is 1906. It has the very early screw-on cocking piece and this is the problem.

Guy who sold the rifle couldn't get it put together and neither can I. I haven't been this frustrated since I got my first 1905, which was just about 45 years ago!

Problem is that it appears that the coking-piece should just thread on but, in order to tighten the thing up, you must pull the cocking-piece back so that it is completely out of the bolt, then turn it to its correct position and then allow it to move forward into its "cocked" position.

It doesn't want to come back far enough to be turned, yet it appears that it needs about another 8 turns.

Will someone PLEASE tell me what I'm doing wrong????? It's GOTTA be me: the army never would have accepted a rifle that could not be put together!!!
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Is it full length? Pics...:D
 
smellie said:
Guys, I am hiding my head in the sand. Went to a gun show and there was this poor, lonely 1905 Ross sitting on a table, crying. It needed a new home, I needed a new friend (my 19-year-old pussycat just died).
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Sorry about the loss of your Cat. :(
 
You just got lucky! Stuart Mobray, Editor of Man at Arms magazine just published an outstanding MilSurp Teardown Manual. He shows minute details of the early (and late) Ross bolt teardown/reassembly methods.dial up www.manatarmsbooks.com/rifle.hmtl or call him at 800 999 4697 and buy a copy! Should your bolt be buggered beyond repair, I have a few spare early ones, as long as your JBSTs let bolts through the razor-wire...
 
Rossguy said:
You just got lucky! Stuart Mobray, Editor of Man at Arms magazine just published an outstanding MilSurp Teardown Manual. He shows minute details of the early (and late) Ross bolt teardown/reassembly methods.dial up www.manatarmsbooks.com/rifle.hmtl or call him at 800 999 4697 and buy a copy! Should your bolt be buggered beyond repair, I have a few spare early ones, as long as your JBSTs let bolts through the razor-wire...
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The big razor wire issues these days are not on our side of the border...US rules are very strict anymore.
 
Rossguy said:
You just got lucky! Stuart Mobray, Editor of Man at Arms magazine just published an outstanding MilSurp Teardown Manual. He shows minute details of the early (and late) Ross bolt teardown/reassembly methods.dial up www.manatarmsbooks.com/rifle.hmtl or call him at 800 999 4697 and buy a copy! Should your bolt be buggered beyond repair, I have a few spare early ones, as long as your JBSTs let bolts through the razor-wire...
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I have it.... excellent book... bought it on Andy's recommendation.... :)

You can get it at Amazon.com as well.....


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Regards,
Badger
 
Guys, thanks so much for the help. I have just discovered what my Christmas present from me to me is going to be!

Calum, thanks for the good words regarding my pussycat. He was a very special guy, 1/4 Lynx, 1/4 Bobcat and just half a cat. He arrived at the door as a kitten, frozen solid, 19 years ago and was thawed out in a basin of warm water. Apart from understanding English, he had his little tricks..... like standing on my head with all his claws dug in, because he wanted a "cave" under the blankets at night. Special little guy.
 
smellie said:
Guys, thanks so much for the help. I have just discovered what my Christmas present from me to me is going to be!

Calum, thanks for the good words regarding my pussycat. He was a very special guy, 1/4 Lynx, 1/4 Bobcat and just half a cat. He arrived at the door as a kitten, frozen solid, 19 years ago and was thawed out in a basin of warm water. Apart from understanding English, he had his little tricks..... like standing on my head with all his claws dug in, because he wanted a "cave" under the blankets at night. Special little guy.
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Sorry about your cat guy...I still miss mine of 14 years, still have a pic in my wallet of him. They do get under your skin...
 
We always have had six or seven of those furballs around and they were all different. Each one has its peculiarities and ways of doing.
We also had a Tibetan Terrier which was every cat's friend. I think he considered them as part of his flock.
That dog knew instinctively how to approach cats and not a single one ever hissed at him.
He died at 18 1/2 years of age and all the cats searched after him for a while.

We miss each and every one of them when they go. I think we learn a lot about life and death from our companions. They make us understand and accept our own finality. My condoleances for your loss.
PP.
 
PerversPépère said:
We always have had six or seven of those furballs around and they were all different. Each one has its peculiarities and ways of doing.
We also had a Tibetan Terrier which was every cat's friend. I think he considered them as part of his flock.
That dog knew instinctively how to approach cats and not a single one ever hissed at him.
He died at 18 1/2 years of age and all the cats searched after him for a while.

We miss each and every one of them when they go. I think we learn a lot about life and death from our companions. They make us understand and accept our own finality. My condoleances for your loss.
PP.
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The number one worst thing about cats and dogs...they don't live long enough...:(
 
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