Early MN rifles

CMichaud

CMichaud

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Hey guys

Are there any early Czarist marked non-refurb and non-Finn captured 91s out there?

I am looking for a good example of a WW1 Russian rifle to add to the collection which has not been modified/refurbed etc. Wondering if they exist in Canada

Thanks
 
Do they exist? Yes. In Canada? I've never seen one in 20 years of collecting.

The ones you do see are usually in Europe or in the USA. And of the ones in the USA, they are invariably NEW or Remington guns that never left the USA, but are still tsarist mosins.

A nice, unissued and non-refurb US-made mosin in the states is a $2000-3000+ gun (USD) if you can find one.

Some early non-refurb guns do turn up that are issued and have early features, but are generally not going to matching and will be partial matched guns. They still sell in the $1800+ USD range.

You sometiems also find balkan-used examples that are set up as period WW1 guns, but they usually have some re-numbered arts, scrubbed tsarist markings, or both. The odd nice one slips through and commands a high price tag.

Even nicer examples of lightly refurbed finns are selling steeply in the USA. M91's are selling for more there than they are here, so get ready for that "buyers premium" if you venture over to the USA auction sites.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
 
I think I still have her somewhere.. factory matching original condition (except rust ha-ha).

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Back in about 1973 Century Arms brought in crates of them with ammo. All of them were real nice as well as
cheap....
 
The one thing I love about the Mosins is the history, the countries they have been through and wars they may have been in. To me, the more marks and stamps the better. And the more history they have, the cheaper they get. Love it.
 
Peteroliver1234 said:
The one thing I love about the Mosins is the history, the countries they have been through and wars they may have been in. To me, the more marks and stamps the better. And the more history they have, the cheaper they get. Love it.
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i agree with everything mentioned up above, except for the "cheap" part.I always had to pay top $$$, when it came to early (Imperial era) mosins, but i didnt mind as some of them had OAWG, AZF and German WW1 stamps as well as SA.. the way i see it,is i was payin for rich history... and im ok with that...out of many M1891's i own only 2 have not been Finned...one is 1895 Tula, in original stock... non matching bolt, but everything else is..i consider it a crown jewell in my collection
 
I have a non-refurb INSTRUCTIE marked NEW, but it's mismatched. Closest I personally have to a non-refurb imperial 91, but then I'm more of a Finn collector than an imperial collector. (I also collect post-dragoon M91/30 Izhevsk)
 
SA85M1 said:
On a side note,how many Chatterault M91's out there ?...
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Chat had the highest production numbers of all producers, but as the earliest made guns, the attrition rate was high. I have several Chattelerault receivers used on later Finn guns like M27's and M39's.

For guns still configured as Chatelleraults, they track the known numbers over on gunboards and it's only in the dozens. I've only ever seen 2 in Canada.
 
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